Double Major help! How do I do it?

College Majors Business Major
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<p>I am e.d. committed to miami university in ohio. hopefully honors and early placement in the farmer school of business.</p>

<p>My major is a b.s. in business economics but I also really like math. It has been my best subject my entire life and I would say I'm pretty good at it. I got a 33 on my act math and my lowest grades were B+'s in pre calc and one semester of ap stats.</p>

<p>Do I start a double major my sophomore year to make sure I am doing well/adapted well to college or is it something I have to start my first day on campus? I really don't know how degrees/semester hours work out so maybe you could point me in the right direction. Also who and when do I contact in the school to notify them that I will be double majoring?</p>

<p>Note: miami is liberal arts so I have to do classes outside of my major which eats up more semester hours so would this just be a bad idea in general?</p>

<p>it looks like (30 hours + 28 hours) with a few overlap math classes</p>

<p>Business-Economics- Bachelor of Science in Business</p>

<p>Honors in Economics
To receive departmental honors in economics, you must meet all of the following requirements:
Completion of ECO 315 and ECO 317 with at least a 3.50 GPA in this sequence. If you have not completed this requirement by the end of your junior year, you will not be permitted to enroll in ECO 480-482 except as approved by the honors coordinator.
Completion of ECO 480-482 with at least a 3.50 GPA
Attainment of a minimum 3.50 GPA for all economics courses.</p>

<p>Completion of a minimum of 30 hours of economics including ECO 311 and two additional courses other than ECO 480-482 for which ECO 315 or ECO 317 (or both) is a prerequisite.
It is highly recommended that ECO 311 be completed by the end of your junior year.
Special Curriculum Requirements</p>

<p>The department requires all economics majors to complete at least nine hours of advanced economics (above 300 level) at Miami, including ECO 315 and 317. Any transfer credit exception for these two courses must be approved by the director of undergraduate studies in the department.</p>

<p>Program Requirements
All of these:
ECO 311 Examining Economic Data and Models (3)
ECO 315 Intermediate Microeconomic Theory (3)
ECO 317 Intermediate Macroeconomic Theory (3)</p>

<p>Electives:
Fifteen additional hours in economics, at least six of those hours must be in courses that require ECO 315 and/or ECO 317 as prerequisite(s).
At least nine hours of advanced economics (300-level and above) as well as ECO 315 and ECO 317 must be taken at Miami. Up to three hours of Summer Scholar credit can be applied toward the 15 hours of advanced economics. Exceptions must be approved by the director of undergraduate studies.
GPA requirement:
You must achieve at least a 2.00 GPA in all economics courses taken.</p>

<p>Major in Mathematics: Bachelor of Science
This program requires at least 28 semester hours of MTH and STA courses at the 300 level or above with at least 22 hours at the 400 level.
Theory courses. Both of these:
MTH 421 Introduction to Abstract Algebra (4)
MTH 441 Real Analysis (3)</p>

<p>Choose at least TWO of the following:
MTH 411 Foundations of Geometry (3)
MTH 422 Linear Algebra and Fields (4)
MTH 438 Theory and Application of Graphs (3)
MTH 442 Real Analysis (3)
MTH 451 Introduction to Complex Variables (4)
MTH 483 Introduction to Mathematical Logic (3)
MTH 486 Introduction to Set Theory (3)
MTH 491 Introduction to Topology (3)</p>

<p>Applications courses. Choose at least TWO of the following:
MTH 347 Differential Equations (3)
MTH 432 Optimization (3)
MTH 436 Combinatorial Designs and Coding Theory (3)
MTH 437 Game Theory and Related Topics (3)
MTH 439 Combinatorics (3)
MTH 447 Topics in Mathematical Finance (3)
MTH 453 Numerical Analysis (3)
Electives:
Additional courses to complete the 28 required hours may be chosen from lists above or from MTH 331, 410, 413, 420, 425 (MPC), 435 (MPC), 440, 454, 470, 482 (MPC), 492, STA 401, 462. At most, two of the 28 hours may be from 430 or independent studies.</p>

<p>Requirements of the Global Miami Plan</p>

<p>All students must complete liberal education requirements as well as courses in the major. The Global Miami Plan has three parts: Foundation Courses, a Thematic Sequence, and a Capstone Course.
The Foundation (MPF) requirement is met by taking a minimum of 36 semester hours (33 hours with Study Abroad) of Foundation courses across five specific areas:</p>

<p>I. English Composition (6 hours)
II. Fine Arts, Humanities, Social Science (9 hours)
A. Fine Arts (3 hours)
B. Humanities (3 hours)
C. Social Science (3 hours)
III. Global Perspectives (6 to 9 hours)
A. Study Abroad (6 hours fulfills requirement), or
B. G-Courses (9 hours), or
C. G-Cluster (9 hours)
IV. Natural Science (9 hours, must include one laboratory course)
A. Biological Science (3 hours minimum)
B. Physical Science (3 hours minimum)
V. Mathematics, Formal Reasoning, Technology (3 hours)</p>

<p>Additionally, to complete the Foundation area requirements, students must complete the following:
Cultures (Cul) requirement - All students must take at least one Foundation course that presents a cultural perspective. Students satisfy this requirement by taking an appropriately designated course in any foundation area. The same course may meet both a Foundation areas requirement and the cultural and/or historical perspective requirement.
Historical (H) requirement - All students must take at least one Foundation course that presents a historical perspective (H). Students satisfy this requirement by taking an appropriately designated course in any Foundation area. The same course may meet both a Foundation area requirement and the historical and/or the cultural perspective requirement.
The Thematic Sequence (MPT) requirement is met by completing three related courses (usually nine hours) in an approved Thematic Sequence outside the student's department of major.
The Capstone Course (MPC) requirement is met by completing three hours in an approved Capstone course during a student's senior year.</p>

<p>I'm sorry, this is a lot of information but I am a very confused senior. Thanks</p>

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<p>I didn’t read everything, but you should talk to a counselor instead. If you plan on double majoring then prepare to work for it. You should mix some core classes with your major each semester/quarter or just complete your GE within the first 2 years of college then the rest of the years complete your major(s). You are not likely to graduate within 4 years of undergrad but perhaps 5 years.</p>

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<p>I agree with AsTran, you have to talk to your counselor! In undergrad I double-majored and got a minor and it took me 5 years with no AP credits coming out of high school. My counselors were able to make my degrees feasible with a 160 credits instead of the 180 it would have taken, saving me a lot in tuition and time. If you develop a relationship with your academic adviser you would be surprised at how helpful they can be at getting you into certain classes or allowing credits from one class to count towards the other major as well. Best of luck</p>

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<p>Hmm, these two posts have given me a lot of info. The idea of taking 5 years doesn’t sound too appealing to me and the workload is definitely a concern. I mean the last thing I would want as a product of this would be two degrees with mediocre gpas.
Do minors actually mean anything? I’ve read around and some people say that it really doesn’t attract a lot of attention from employers so it isn’t really worth it. I kinda feel with how related math and economics are it would give me that extra leg up on the quantitative aspect despite it being a minor.
I am also looking forward to enjoying my college years (and working hard) and joining a fraternity or other extracurriculars like investors club, volunteer work, etc.</p>

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<p>Minors can be used as a complimentary for your major or just for your own personal reason. How it is looked upon after depends on your future employer interest in you.</p>

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<p>Yes, minors are practically worthless in terms of their use, but if you pick the right one they can help you land an interview or job. If you decide to pursue a minor, I recommend you choose something that is radically different from your declared major and something that personally interests you (most of the time those are the easy ones and great GPA boosters; in addition it adds something completely different to your application that most of your competition won’t have). </p>

<p>I have two friends, one who minored in art and another in architecture; their majors were finance and electrical engineering respectively. Both of them said that their minors helped them get their first internship and job. The one who minored in art talked about his passion for art as a hobby while being realistic about his future and wanting to become a CFP. He talked about how painting helped alleviate his stress, etc; this made him look like a balanced, well-rounded and interesting candidate. The other friend has always been working with his dads handyman crew and decided to pick up architecture to learn the basics so he could start a odds-and-ends job on the side; turns out his interviewer was looking to remodel their kitchen but the quotes they were receiving were too high so they arranged a free quote meeting and my friend ended up getting a job for him and his dad!</p>

<p>If you choose something similar like math and economics it won’t have much of an effect, if any. Again, minors are only useful for talking briefly about during an interview for your first job; after that the only thing that really matters is work experience and connections. If you want the full college experience I recommend focusing and doing really well in just one major and if you live in the frat house during the summers, maybe a class or two towards an interesting minor. Best of luck</p>

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<p>I’m having a hard time figuring out how a math minor would not be a good complement to an econ major. </p>

<p>If you are smart enough to do a math minor, and I don’t think a 33 ACT math section would be that strong of an indicator for a good school like Miami-- and B+'s in pre-calculus and AP stats does not sound like math major material to me at a school like Miami-- then do the math minor. Good schools often require a lot of math courses for their econ majors, so getting the math minor might require adding only a class or two beyond the econ major requirements anyway.</p>

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<p>Amazing how some posters are such jerks! Just sayin…</p>

<p>Sometimes IU just isn’t enough…</p>

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<p>@bthomp1: Why do you have the notion that miami is a mathematics powerhouse?</p>

<p>Wouldn’t a minor in math pretty much be like taking more classes in your major which would help/allow for a better understanding of the content? And I check and a minor in math is usually 21 hours but I would take out like 4 or 5 classes that overlap with econ.
Would something like a minor in computer science work really well? I doubt that I would take this up though, I’m not the best at writing code.</p>

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<p>Like you said, there is some overlap between what is required for the econ major and the math minor, so I don’t know why it wouldn’t be helpful to get an econ major and math minor. The more math you have in some types of econ the better, especially if you want to go to graduate school, which many econ undergrads wind up doing. I disagree with the idea of getting a totally unrelated minor.</p>

<p>GA Mom, I have no idea what the OP’s questions have to do with IU. Since you care so much, I have a lot of respect for Miami’s accounting program, which places more undergrads with Big Four companies than IU per Business Week’s statistics despite their program being much smaller.</p>

<p>You have 2,000+ posts and when I make one that is not about IU it bothers you? </p>

<p>Just sayin’.</p>

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<p>I do not believe that a math minor and economics major are not complementary, on the contrary, I think they are too similar. I’m not sure of any statistics or raw numbers, but I am fairly sure that there are a decent number of students who double MAJOR in economics and either finance/accounting/mathematics. </p>

<p>Minors generally carry little weight because of the few number of classes taken and that the level of those classes are rarely all upper level courses. If you are planning on overlapping some of your economics classes to count for your math minor, you won’t really be learning as much additional math as you could. Other than the one or two 400 level classes you might take, in my opinion, it won’t help you develop a strong fundamental of mathematics anymore than just the economics major would on its own. </p>

<p>The reason I suggested minoring in something unique, interesting to you and radically different is to help you stand out in a resume. If you are applying to a finance job for example, how many resumes does HR see with the words “economics” and “math”? Again, I am sure there are more than a couple applicants who have a double major, so why would they want to select someone with a minor in math? I’d go out on a limb and say that greater than 90% of applicants to a finance job have a degree in one or a combination of any of the following five subjects: math, econ, accounting, finance, business. People generally don’t take very long to glance over a resume, they do however stop a little longer for the ones that are different from the rest. </p>

<p>Whatever your decision may be, the most important thing is to perform extremely well in your major, best of luck</p>