<p>I know I'm going to get some AP credit for history and english courses, but I've heard that you're better off (preparedness-wise) just taking the 101 courses and not placing out of them. Plus, I've also read that grad schools prefer you to take the 101 courses, not place out with AP credit.</p>
<p>depends on what your college/major is…</p>
<p>and what your plans for grad/prof. school are…</p>
<p>some 101 classes are notorious weed out classes. i’d recommend that… if you took ap macro/micro and can get credit for it, place out - if you have to take upper level courses after intro to macro and intro to micro, they’ll rehash everything in the first week anyway.</p>
<p>take your english credit! you get to place out of a FWS - some are pretty interesting, but most just waste time.</p>
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<p>I heard Econ 1110/1120 were pretty interesting courses o_o lol</p>
<p>Out of these APs and a psychology major in CAS, which should I try to place out of? I can get credit for macro, us gov, eng lang, psychology, european history, american history, and stat. I would not consider taking credit for physics B or calc ab because I don’t feel confident in those.</p>
<p>hmm cc102, are freshmen writing seminars really a waste of time? I got a 5 on english lit last year but I’m really not the strongest writer so I was going to take the intro writing classes anyway.</p>
<p>You wouldn’t recommend that though?</p>
<p>Freshmen Writing Seminars are notoriously pains in the a$$.</p>
<p>Some will definitely help you be a better writer, but they are usually a lot of work, and lots of frustration.</p>
<p>Aww man… I have a 4 in AP lang, probably the same in AP lit… I dont’ think that that will get me out of the fws?</p>
<p>you might become a better writer if you take some offered by the english department or the department your major is in (i.e. history fws) </p>
<p>but there are also advanced writing courses which are similar to FWS so these are the ones you should aim for if you place out of FWS</p>
<p>Since I get credit for AP Lang (5), and I feel pretty confident in my writing abilities, which FWS would you recommend?</p>
<p>there’s no telling who some of the FWS teachers/professors are…some are actual tenured professors but many times they are grad students…</p>
<p>i’d take one in a subjec that you’re really interested in…</p>
<p>one with movies and or fiction books is always popular :)</p>
<p>If you really want to be challenged to become a better writer, take ENGL 2700 - The Reading of Fiction.</p>
<p>It’s intended for prospective English majors, and is a great crash course in being a better analyzer and writer.</p>
<p>I think one of the biggest factors (atleast for me), is how much you’re paying for school.</p>
<p>I took and passed 11 AP’s in high school thinking it was going to save me some money, but now I’m not using almost half of them because 1) college is free 2) I’d rather get a solid foundation in some of the classes 3) I’m confident that if I could 5’s on all my AP’s I should be able to get some solid A’s in a few of these classes which should help my GPA a little.</p>
<p>I’m going to be in ILR and the AP’s I got 5’s on that I’m NOT using are:
MicroEcon
MacroEcon
AP Lang (I personally think the FWS’s look interesting =D)
Psychology </p>
<p>Ones I AM using (I’m not even sure if they’ll let me use them all):
Physics C: Mech
Physics C: E&M
Chem
Calc BC
Euro History
US History
US Gov (this ones a maybe)</p>
<p>In the end, its up to you, but if a class is either really relevant to your major, or its something your interested in and you’re going to pursue at a much higher level then I would suggest not using the AP credit.</p>
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<p>you should actually consider using these…you will still get a solid foundation with your labor econ + upper level econ courses…</p>
<p>those courses are survey/introductory courses to be prepared for higher level work…and if you look at the median grades for micro/macro they’re not As</p>
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<p>this really should only be of concern to pre-med students who are advised to take the med school course requirements at college and not place out with AP tests…</p>
<p>there are many courses at cornell and if you have 5 on those APs then i would take as much credit as possible to be able to start your core ILR courses ASAP and take advantage of smaller upper level courses that are not necessarily harder than those intro courses. the more requirements you place out of…the more room for electives. and ability to fulfill minor requirements!</p>
<p>Hmm ResurgamBell you raise an intesting point but the thing is if I place out of those credits won’t those just be 4 less classes that I’ll have to take senior year, I won’t be able to go over the 120 credit limiit though right (I’m going to be there on a mixture of outside scholarships and financial aid, and I’m pretty sure anything I go over the 120 credit limit comes out of pocket).</p>
<p>think of it this way: you took the AP class in high school, got a score high enough so that cornell deems you “knowledgeable” (aka out of a pass/fail grade, you’ve gotten a pass - so let’s just say that’s at least a C) - why sit in that class again if you can place out? why waste your time if you might get bored, relearning the same material over again? why not take a class on something that’s interesting, something that may not go towards your major, per se - but it’s still of interest to you? </p>
<p>furthermore, from simply an economic standpoint, 1 AP test = $86/$87. that AP test, if you do well on it can be equal to anywhere from 3 to 8 credits. one cornell credit is approximately $970 (based off of the going rate for extramural students). you do the math. APs save a lot of money. (even if cornell is absolutely free for you, you’re still sitting in classes that you don’t NEED to sit in - by cornell’s standards - which means that you’re wasting, your time, and time, by all definitions, equals money - so either way, you’re wasting money.) and let’s not get any further into sunk cost or opportunity costs, but if you want/need i could formulate an argument about those.</p>
<p>@ roneald: you shouldn’t look at it like that. you should look at it like… if you place out of those credits, that means you can take 4 MORE classes that you would want to. i don’t think they limit you to only 120 credits at all, or at least they shouldn’t. those are credits that you earned OUTSIDE of cornell - you didn’t use any of Cornell’s resources to get those credits. i’m definitely going to be graduating with way more than 120, as are a lot of my friends.</p>
<p>anyway, i chose to use as many AP credits as i could - and at first, the main reason why i did that was so that i didn’t have to take classes in which i would be bored. now, though, i’m glad that i did it because it allowed me to fulfill many of my own major requirements earlier than my peers in the same year. and also, it’s REALLY helpful, like resurgambell said, for minors/majors. it gives you a lot more flexibility in switching/double majors. ie: i came into AEM thinking i would specialize in int’l trade and development and agribusiness management, but then i found out about IARD, which would give me a similar, if not a more focused and better, education on those subjects… so now i have the option of specializing in complete different specializations within AEM and double majoring in IARD! and i can do that easily bc of my ap credits.</p>
<p>last point, and then i’m done: within AEM, one of the largest complaints is that the upper level courses, the courses that many companies want to see you take, are only available to upperclassmen. it’s harder to be as competitive when you’re a freshman and you haven’t taken classes like… financial accounting, finance, etc. if you’re applying for an internship in a major corporation. with AP credit, you can place out and therefore take those upper-level classes earlier, making you more competitive as an applicant, should you so choose to do that.</p>
<p><em>whew</em> sorry for the long post.</p>
<p>Ok, let me just rephrase my entire question since I found some answers. Here is my final question:</p>
<p>I am joining the College of Engineering. Can I get 3 credits from both Eng lang(4)/lit(4), making it 6 credits total OR is it just going to be 3 credits for them total if I get 4’s on both?</p>
<p>i called about a similar situation herostar, i have a 5 on lang and expecting at least a 4 on lit</p>
<p>they say you can only place out of one seminar, but you’ll get credits for both</p>
<p>^ I THINK most colleges only let you use one AP English credit, which is why I didn’t take Lit. Not 100% sure though.</p>
<p>As for cc102, thank you so much. Your points were really informative, very logical, and make perfect sense.</p>
<p>I think I still might take the normal econ classes, just because I felt like I’m going to be doing a lot in the econ side of things and I really want to get a good foundation, but for the other ones I definitely think I’ll be using the AP credits. Thank you so much for your advice =]</p>