Dreaming of Princeton or Stanford

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Please rate my chances for Princeton, my dream school, and Stanford, my very close second choice! If you could suggest other schools that would be good matches, that'd be great too!</p>

<p>Female, White/Asian, Public School, New Mexico
SAT: 2040
SAT II's:
History: 730
Spanish: 550
Math II: 780
4.0 GPA
10/700 Rank
Probably good recs and pretty good essays
APs: Junior year- History 4, English Lang 3, senior year schedule will have 5 APs</p>

<p>ECs:
Cross country (freshman year)
Piano for 9 years, but no awards or ranking
Choir freshman and sophomore year
Key Club:
VP soph and junior year</p>

<h1>1 fundraiser in state junior year</h1>

<p>President senior year
NHS Junior year, secretary senior year
VP of National Art Honor Society junior year, will be prez senior year</p>

<p>I have started volunteering with my home city (about 5 hrs/week), but have only been doing this since second semester of junior year, some over the summer, and probably into senior year- will this look like I just started to look good on the resume? (I kinda did...lol)</p>

<p>I also started working at an internship once a week in a dentist's office, but again this is just starting up senior year so I dunno how great it will look on the app</p>

<p>Worked at dad's lawfirm for 2 summers, mostly filing paperwork and such</p>

<p>I have a sister who will be a sophomore at Stanford when I apply, if that helps at all.</p>

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<p>whats this #1 fundraiser business all about? i see that as you only real hook at either school. blow that up or else both schools will become massive reaches.</p>

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<p>Get those SATs up by 300 pts.</p>

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<p>i think u will get an admission at princeton
GOOD LUCK! have faith in yourself
I am hoping to go to Princeton,too.</p>

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<p>Princeton and Stanford are both reaches, unless that Key Club stuff is a really really big deal. What exactly are you interested in doing?</p>

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<p>"i think u will get an admission at princeton
GOOD LUCK! have faith in yourself
I am hoping to go to Princeton,too."</p>

<p>I don't understand. If you're not in college yet, why do you feel qualified to give an opinion on whether this person will get in?</p>

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<p>you have a chance just like everybody else!!!! I've seen people with 2300 SAT getting reject and i've seen people with less impressive stats getting accepted ...those kinda schools are like that it's impossible to predict anything</p>

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<p>Given your current stats, realistically, you have very little chance of being accepted at Princeton or Stanford. Bluntly, you need to lower your sights. Below is a list of very good, but less selective schools at which you'd have a much better chance of winning admission. The ones toward the top of the list are High Match/Reaches. The ones towards the bottom, Low Match/Safeties. It's a long list. I'm sure you'll find more than a few to your liking.</p>

<p>Carnegie Mellon
Tufts
University of Virginia
William and Mary
Washington and Lee
Emory
Vanderbilt
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Bowdoin
Haverford
Macalester
Davidson
Colby
U of C Berkley
Univer. Of Southern CA
U of NC, Chapel Hill
Colgate
Brandeis
Oberlin
Bates
Tulane
Hamilton
Grinnell
Bard
Wake Forest
Kenyon
Connecticut College
Boston College
University of Richmond
Univ. of Rochester
NYU
Lehigh
Case Western
University of Michigan
Trinity
Bucknell
UCLA
Dickinson College
Gettysburg College
Lafeyette
Franklin and Marshall
College of NJ
Sarah Lawrence
Union
Skidmore
U of C San Diego
Syracuse
Penn State</p>

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<p>I have to agree with the last poster, except on some of the list. UC's are not matches/safeties. When u apply out of state to Berkeley, UCLA, MICH, UVA and even UCSD they become very selective, this is probably the same for all elite state universities. UCB, UCLA, MICH, UVA probably are the same as low tier ivies when out of state. I may be wrong but I feel the top publics become extremely difficult when out of state, I would suggest the privates, after all ur going to be paying the same for privates as u will for publics might as well have smaller class size, more individual attention, etc.<br>
Although i would say princeton, stanford look like reaches good luck</p>

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<p>Keep dreaming honey...</p>

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<p>Kim Jong-il go play pokemon</p>

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<p>Low chance at both.</p>

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<p>Take a look at some of the top Liberal Arts Colleges across the country. I find Davidson College (NC), Colgate University (NY), and perhaps even Wellesley College (MA, female college right beside Harvard) good matches for an applicant like you. What field of study do you plan to major in? Both Davidson and Colgate have outstanding political science programs, plus they are both ranked among the top 15 LACs in America. I also recommend those two places because of your ethnicity. From what I've learned, you'll actually have a truly "minority advantage" at those two LACs since they both have very small Asia populations. </p>

<p>Downside: your father's job as a lawyer will probably hurt you. There's always been a growing bias towards "upper-middle-ish" families in admissions offices across the country. </p>

<p>IN General, LACs like Davidson, Tufts, Carleton, and Colgate often offer a much better and enhanced undergraduate experience for students. Their campuses are small and close-knitted, while students enjoy the luxury having the chance to personally communicate and work with their professors (in fact, all teachings are done by professors; no inexperienced TAs). Because of their small student population, schools like Davidson also have high campus morales (very few drinking, drugs, or out-of-control frats scenes), which in turn enhances a student's learning experience. Many undergrads from top LACs do their graduate studies later at top research institutions like Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. </p>

<p>Hope this helps:)</p>

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<p>If you just be yourself in your application, you've got nothing to lose by applying, especially if these are your dream schools. </p>

<p>However, I do recommend retaking the Spanish SAT or taking a different SAT Subject Test and scoring 700+.</p>

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<p>retake your SAT I, maybe your spanish one too. I had some not so great SAT IIs (none broke 700) and still got into pton. BE AS DOWN TO EARTH AND YOURSELF AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE IN YOUR APPLICATION. You don't have to write killer creative essays, unless you are a.....creative killer. Which I hope you aren't. My essays weren't majorly proofread or edited by anyone but myself which everyone tells you NOT to do, and yet it worked out.</p>

<p>you don't have a whole lot of ECs, but focus on the ones you've done a lot for in your application and how they've affected you.</p>

<p>GOOD LUCK!</p>

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<p>Would applying EA at Stanford help me out at all? I was planning on doing that</p>

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<p>Not really. Unless you boost the SAT 300 points I think those are both pretty much out of reach. Also, you'll need another SAT2, a 550 sticks out like a sore thumb and since they take 3 scores you're bringing down your average SATII bigtime. I recommend Math 1 if you haven't taken it, its as easy as the SATI math. Its a trick but it works.</p>

<p>If you don't want to retake the SATs, I recommend places like Emory and georgetown as reasonable reaches for you with your scores.</p>

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<p>Problem with EA Stanford is that they don't sugar coat their decisions - if they think you won't make it in the RD round, they'll reject you outright during EA. And to tell you the truth, I think Stanford's out of your reach. Spend your early shot somewhere else instead.</p>

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<p>No, EA won't help. Your stats just aren't in range for those schools.</p>

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<p>i give you no chance for pton or stford</p>