D's Chances for College of Human Ecology

<p>D is a Junior. ED chances for CHE..</p>

<p>GPA 94. Class rank 9 of 160. Takes all AP offerred at her school.
SAT's 690 CR 630 M 700 W.</p>

<p>Captain of swim team 2 years. (holds three school records but not good enough to swim at Cornell)
Vice president of School Theatre program (lead in award-winning musicals)
1,000 hours of community services through church, swim program
School character award</p>

<p>What major is your D interested in?</p>

<p>SATs should be a bit higher, but she has a shot if she can demonstrate fit. What ECs is she involved in that relates to her major?</p>

<p>NY resident or out of state?</p>

<p>NY resident. thinking of human Development for major. Taking only psych class offerred. Both parents are psychologists</p>

<p>Is she interested in doing some ECs that relate to her major? She will need to write her regular common app essay plus one that demonstrates her interest in HumEc and her major specifically. Have her look into research that is being done in HD at Cornell. If she is interested in that, it would be wise to address it in her essay. She has to have something to write about. HumEc is all about FIT FIT FIT!! I believe the only way to do so is through the college specific essay which will be based on her activities/interests. From what I have gathered and in my D’s own experience, these are much more important than scores/stats.</p>

<p>I agree with Woody.</p>

<p>My daughter was accepted into Human Ecology, Class of 2013, and her grades were solid but her standardized tests were on the low side for Cornell.</p>

<p>She was waitlisted or rejected at a bunch of schools not rated as high as Cornell, no doubt due to the test scores, but was accepted in Human Ecology.</p>

<p>Fit, fit, fit.</p>

<p>Don’t know if her ED chances are great, but Cornell definitely gives the ED r’s a second look. I know a bunch of kids who didn’t get in ED, but they were admitted in the RD cycle. </p>

<p>there are a number of organizational behavior courses in ILR. Do you think your d might find ILR a fit too? My own kid was debating between Human Ec (with an interest in psychology) and ILR as she was interested in the social sciences . She decided ILR was a better fit after she did a tour of the HE and ILR school.</p>

<p>I’m only suggesting you check the ILR curriculum, as a NY girl might have a better shot in ILR admission than Human Ec.</p>

<p>but as everyone says its fit-fit-fit for Cornell.
Good luck.</p>

<p>Well, I can also second marny1.</p>

<p>My child was deferred after applying ED to Human Ecology last year. </p>

<p>We were dissappointed of course, but I did read shortly thereafter that Hum Ec does quite a bit of ED deferrals because they are looking for a large pool to find, you guessed it, the right fit.</p>

<p>My child was accepted in March.</p>

<p>Thanks to everyone for the great information.</p>

<p>marny1 - why would a NY girl have a better shot at ILR than HEc?</p>

<p>To woody, phineas and marny1…would you mind sharing how or why you feel that your kids were a good fit for Human Ec. My daughter also applied ED, and she is relatively confident in the “fit” aspect of her interests and activities, but knowing what other accepted students had in this regard would be very interesting (and hopefully comforting! :slight_smile: ). Thanks!</p>

<p>Yes it does appear that she’d have a better chance at the school of ILR. Just today I Found the breakdown of “entering freshman who scored in the top 10% of their class” by college at cornell. The college of Human Ecology had 94% (second highest to engineering) while Industrial & Labor Relations had 73% (second lowest to Hotel)</p>

<p>thirdsib- i started looking at admission stats after d was admitted- but it looks like ILR tries to accept an equal # of male and females. the year my kid was accepted (2004) there were alot less females applying to ILR program, so it appeared to me that it might have been a bit easier for a female to get into ILR than a male at least in 2004.<br>
but my kid did have the basic stats needed for cornell- top 6 % 1420 (or thereabouts)</p>

<p>I do remember that some of her HS buddies who applied to Human Ec with higher stats than my d did not get into cornell- even the one who was accepted to Harvard.</p>

<p>It gets more confusing… 2009 acceptence rates for the two colleges for females:</p>

<p>Human Ecology 32%
Industrial & Labor Relations 26%</p>

<p>… HE accepts more but based on % of students in top 10% of class, HE students have significantly higher high school rank. Discussion???</p>

<p>csdad- one thing I learned over the years, is that specific info is hard to come by on the cornell website- and it is almost impossible to compare info from the 7 colleges at cornell.<br>
Take my advice- don’t even try to overanalyze the info on the site. My point was with ILR and female admission (I actually found fall 2009 freshmen admission statistics)
ILR accepted 118 male students out of 573 applications and accepted 119 female students out of 450 applicants. “Following” these statistics over the years, I noticed that ILR tries to accept an equal amount of male vs. female students.<br>
The year my d was accepted, there was a pretty low # of female students applying. So that may have worked in her favor- but remember I’m talking 2004. Don’t get too caught up in the details of the school, it will give you a headache. </p>

<p>The best thing my kid did was to visit the campus and take the college tour of both ILR and Human Ec. That was definitely her deciding factor.</p>

<p>Yes the more she reads about their programs the more she’s thinking that ILR is a better fit. After the current school year she will assess whether to apply ED to Geneseo or Cornell. If she doesn’t get into either school SUNY Binghamton & Nazareth are considerations.</p>

<p>“…specific info is hard to come by on the cornell website- and it is almost impossible to compare info from the 7 colleges at cornell.”</p>

<p>Hard to come by perhaps, but not completely absent either. Following is a start, not completely comprehensive, but much of the same info you typically get from other colleges outside the university is available. So much of the same level of stats comparison can be made between the 7 colleges at Cornell as can be made vs. any two other colleges, as inadequate and superficial as that may be:</p>

<p><a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000151.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000151.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000152.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000152.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000154.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000154.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Source for all: Cornell website
(Division of Planning & Budget, “Facts”)</p>

<p>Your daughter’s rank should be fine, as long as she’s in a somewhat competitive school. If you are not valedictorian, or salutatorian (and sometimes third), it’s mostly just important to be in the first decile of your class. Of course, colleges want to see success in hard classes, which your daughter seems to have shown.</p>

<p>Her scores are on the weak side for Cornell, and without demonstrated interest, I’d say CU is a reach as of now. I would advise her to use her time this summer to intern at a job relevant to her desired major. Also, if she can raise her SATs by fifty points or so in each section, her chances will improve immensely. SATs at Cornell are mostly just qualifiers. However, AC’s will be less inclined to give her application a second look if her scores remain where they are.</p>

<p>Hope this was helpful. Good luck with your college search!</p>

<p>Does Cornell use an “SAT filter”, that is not look at Apps below say 1300? Another question is how much would not having EC’s that directly pertain to her desired major hurt her in comparison to outstanding leadership quailities ( only soph in school history to be named captain of a varsity sport, only student in recent memory to obtain leadership positions in both state recognized theatre program & varsity sport, class president, etc)?</p>