<p>I'm still in high school (freshman), so I still have quite a while. Can anyone explain this program to me? I know its graduate school, but I still have my plan. How good at French do I need to be? I will take French my sophomore year, and then I'm planning on going to Bard College at Simon's Rock. I would have 5 years of French then, before I apply for the program. Is that enough? I know it's a while, but it looks great. Anyone doing it? I know you have to take a French test? Should I take French in between semesters like in summers? Are the classes in French? I'm not even French, lol. I would be 20 the time I graduate for undergraduate, since I'm doing an early college. Would they care that I'm younger? If this doesn't work out, I like the dual degree with the law. Is that any good? I may like to entertainment law. I plan on graduating my undergraduate from Northwestern, NYU or USC. Here is the website: Dual</a> Degree: Columbia & Sciences Po - The Journalism School Columbia University</p>
<p>bump…</p>
<p>Um, you’re planning 10 years in the future? Take it a step at a time.</p>
<p>No. It’s only 5 years. I would skip my last two years of high school. So, 4 years of college. And then one more year of high school.</p>
<p>Might I ask how you are going to skip 2 years of high school? I’m just curious.</p>
<p>Did you read my first post, guess not. Next year I’m going to apply to an early college called Bard College at Simon’s Rock at Great Barrington, Mass. I would be 16 years old, and you don’t nessarly get a diloma from high school. It depends on the school. You go to Bard at SR for 2 years get an AA and then transfer or you can stay there. People transfer to places like Yale, NYU, Georgetown, etc.</p>
<p>I didn’t know that there were colleges that specialized in admitting younger students; obviously an oversight on my part.</p>
<p>It’s ok, lol. This is the only college that is specifically for younger students. There other programs to start early, but it’s not the same as Simon’s Rock. USC has one called RHS, but this is a very selective program and the university is filled with lots of older students. The USC program is more for students who are not academically challenged for high school. Bard at Simon’s Rock is more for students who may not fit socially in high school, or who may just want a head start in life. The students also want to challenge themselves. It is a very good school, and is also a liberal arts school. It only has 420 kids in the whole school, and less than 10 kids per classroom. It’s a great school, and that’s my plan. All I wanted to know was about Columbia’s program, because I already know too much about Bard at SR.</p>
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<p>1) the program you speak of is many years in your future - planning ahead is good, but you should understand why no one really wants to answer your question; it borders on the absurd It is entirely possible that in 5-10 years the program ends. Just be a high schooler and keep your grades up so you can get into SR and the college of your choice. Further if you want to go to college at Medill than there is very little point to getting a graduate degree in Journalism if you have an undergraduate one.</p>
<p>2) CJS prefers against selecting students straight out of college; they like work experience or those who have extensive experience in college. At 20 you will be well below their mean age that hovers in the high 20s. You would clearly fall ‘out of profile’ for them, how they respond is up to them. Have you considered asking? Hi, I want to know if you accept students who graduate college at 20 (don’t mention you are a first-year). Unless someone from the J-School ■■■■■■ this board, you aren’t going to find your answer here.</p>
<p>3) If you had gone to the attached PDF brochure (bottom of the link you sent) you would have your answer re: languages, and need for French. I know you are only a freshman, but you really have to see how annoying this is for us - I found your answer in less than 1 minute going to the link you saw. I try to be a nice guy, but when someone has no individual initiative to find this themselves it really pushes me to the extreme. So I am restraining myself from going for the guttural - just don’t do it again, make sure you exhaust the webpages before you come to the board</p>
<p>I did know you have to take French. I was asking how much should I take? It said you need to be know a lot, but how much is a lot? I did read it thank you. I do know you need French, but that wasn’t my question. I wanted to know how many would it take to pass their test? ty</p>
<p>No, you did not read it. It states very explicitly that you must be “proficient” in French. </p>
<p>"Sciences Po considers that students need to attain a certain language level in order to participate actively in courses taught in languages other than their mother tongue or the language of teaching at their home institution.</p>
<p>We therefore require International students coming to Sciences Po as part of an exchange agreement to demonstrate their language proficiency in French (if they wish to enrol in classes taught in French) and in English (if they wish to enrol classes taught in English). We strongly encourage students to inform us of scores obtained on recognised language tests, as this will enable them to enrol in classes without passing the Sciences Po placement test.</p>
<p>The required proficiency levels are:</p>
<ul>
<li>French
If your mother tongue and/or the language of the teaching at your home institution is not French and if you wish to enrol in classes taught in French, you will need to provide evidence of:
At least a European level B2, corresponding to a score of 400 on the TCF or to a level DELF B2.</li>
</ul>
<p>Students coming from US universities are invited to contact their Study abroad advisor in order to fill out the appropriate language level form." From Science Po website regarding studying abroad there as an undergraduate.</p>
<p>Universities have proficiency exams, there are internationally accredited proficiency exams, and Sciences Po itself seems to have a placement test. At times proficiency can be proven through mere coursework. At Columbia undergrad, proficiency is considered after completion of the intermediate level or taking a proficiency exam that leads you to the intermediate level. It doesn’t mean you have to be fluent.</p>
<p>I understand perhaps you didn’t understand what proficiency meant to Sciences Po (it is vague), but it is not impossible to find out what that means with a simple google search. To write this reply I had to do as much. Once again, a question that you need not export to other people - doing so is lazy. As for how much you need to know? It depends on how good you are at languages. Keep studying and if you get to a situation where you are taking advanced French classes, my guess that you would be fine. But it sounds like you are thinking, and please correct me if I am wrong, how little can I learn for me to be competitive for this program. If you are really interested in French you will study it until you can read, write and speak with just about anyone (which will be necessary to do well in the program). </p>
<p>If you still really want to know the precise amount to pass the test - to reiterate, this is an individual thing. It is like asking how many hours you have to study to get a 2400 on the SAT. At some point you either are good at languages or you aren’t.</p>
<p>Best of luck in your future endeavors. I hope you enjoy the pleasures of youth, how I miss thee.</p>
<p>I actually did know all of that, thank you. I read it before and I do know what proficiency means. I knew you had to speak good French. My real question was how long do I need to know French for? And what can I do to be prepared now? I just wanted to know what I should do now to prepare? I don’t know if I’m good at languages since I never used another one. You answered some of it, but your weren’t answering what I was asked. ty for at least trying, but ask next time and answer my real question. no offense.</p>
<p>early_college, admissionsgeek has been EXCEEDINGLY helpful in responding to your enquiries. S/he has spent a LOT of time trying to be helpful. I actually understand his/her eloquent responses, and I know nothing about this program. If the responses are not resonating with you, move on. I am astounded that a high school freshman would be seeking to lay out a five-year strategic plan, but I guess my own experience (both personally and as a parent of two older children) may not be relevant. Make sure you find some time to enjoy your youth!</p>
<p>I do have a youth, you just have to know me. He was just answering questions that I already knew, when only the btm part of his second part was useful. I do appreciate his time, but I don’t want him to waist time on things I know. All I wanted to know was how many years U would recommend for me to take French before this. :)</p>
<p>Spend more time learning English. Your writing is poor for someone who thinks he’s ready to go to college in a year – and wants to be a journalist.</p>
<p>I was thinking about doing the Bard College thing too…but the thing is, you’d be regarded as a transfer applicant after two years, and isn’t it significantly harder for transfer applicants to get it? :(</p>
<p>Well, usually transfer students would be easier to get into. USC is easier to get into as a transfer and you don’t need as high as a GPA. But Yale for instance doesn’t except much transfers at all. Also, to the other poster: My grammar is fine, and this is just a thread. It is hard for me to write good grammar when I have to repeat my question 10 million times. If you have nothing nice to say, don’t post here. ty, and rachael I wouldn’t mind talking about Bard at SR here. You can always pm me.</p>
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<p>No, it’s not. It’s bad. This is just the english language. You used “waist” instead of “waste,” for example, which is totally inexcusable.</p>
<p>Ok, this is a board. Do I care about all my grammar? This isn’t Columbia is it? Please do not reply to my thread any more, or I’ll just ignore you dude. Please go away, It’s hard for me to ask the same question over and over. It aggravates me, and I can’t write my best if I’m in a bad mood. I can’t write the same question in 10 different ways! He answered my real question, so go away. ty</p>
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<p>AND YOU WANT TO BE A JOURNALIST! 'Nuf said!</p>