<p>how hard is it to complete dual degrees? do i need to spend all of my summers at school, working? (i’m thinking of economics and IR)</p>
<p>Generally NO........I encourage you to investigate submatriculation also if you are thinking of the dual. Look into Fels Institute. Have you read about BenFranklin Scholars and those seminars? Penn has lots to offer kids who want to do more, achieve more.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fels.upenn.edu/undergraduate.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.fels.upenn.edu/undergraduate.htm</a></p>
<p>thanks a lot for the information!!</p>
<p>do you know how much extra work one needs to do for dual degrees in general?</p>
<p>also, how competitive is this Benjamin Franklin Scholars Program?</p>
<p>Economics + IR is a double major (within a single school), not a dual degree (between two schools). </p>
<p>In your case, I think it can probably be done without adding any extra classes to the number of credits required to graduate with a single major. Likewise, two concentrations in Wharton or two SEAS majors can be done without adding extra courses.</p>
<p>The difference is that you'll be using your elective spots to fulfill requirment for another major, so you'll have fewer true electives.</p>
<p>For dual degrees, The most demanding combination is Wharton + SEAS, which requires 4-6 more classes than the normal SEAS requirement, which amounts to about 4.5 years (with no AP credit and no overload semesters). Wharton + CAS can be done cleanly in 4 years with no AP and no overloads.</p>
<p>i was thinking of doing wharton economics</p>
<p>there is a difference between that and college economics, right?</p>
<p>Hey! I'm BFS so I can answer any questions you have about that. You are picked when you are admitted...I got my packet maybe a week or two after admission, I think. For BFS, you get as much as you put into it. It can just be a group you are a part of or you can get very involved with it.
Yes, Wharton econ is different than econ in the college. All Wharton undergrads get a bachelor of science in econ and then pick a concentration-fianance, accounting, marketing, etc. Also, the econ in the college is more theory based.</p>
<p>i got into the program as well, i just heard.....</p>
<p>damn, penn is making it me very hard to turn them down for yale....</p>
<p>how hard is it to get the option of dual degree between college and Wharton, or college and SEAS?</p>
<p>does anyone know anything about the vagelos molecular life sciences program? or anyone in it? i got invited and am try to decide whether or not to do it.</p>
<p>crashingwaves, I got Vagelos too.</p>
<p>I think the best bet is to go and talk to Ponzy about it before making a decision. You are talking about one of the best undergrad biochem tracks in the country. Also, you can always drop with no penalty.</p>
<p>yeah i think i will meet with him during penn preview when i am there. hopefully i can meet with someone in the program too.</p>
<p>So Ben Franklin Scholars are chosen before they even arrive on campus? If one is not selected for this program, is there another way in?</p>
<p>so how hard is it to get admitted to dual degree between cas and wharton or cas and engineering, as a cas student?</p>
<p>i was at a preview day last thursday, and talked to a few people in the infectious disease BFS seminar. they said that about 80% of vagelos ppl drop out (i think there are 2 vagelos programs, so im not sure which one you are thinking about) and that it mostly just hurts your grades for med school. unless those are the exact fields you are interested in, they wouldnt recommend it.</p>
<p>i think the dual degree requirements (CAS-wharton) are the same as for transferring. you need some prereqs and a good gpa (3.6?).</p>