<p>I submitted my application for SEAS last week. On the Common App it asked for any college work done. Last year, I was able to get dual enrollment credit from Danville Community College (DCC) for Physics and Pre-Calculus (I think 4 and 3 credits, respectively). This year I have the ability to get credit for Calculus, Government, and Critical Reading & Writing (5, 3, and 3 credit hours). I have a few related questions:</p>
<li><p>Do I need to submit a transcript from DCC as part of my application?</p></li>
<li><p>How do dual enrollment credits work for SEAS? I searched the forum, and all of the other threads dealing with dual enrollment at UVA had a link to CLAS. I couldn’t find anything on the SEAS website. Since the credits correlate to courses from CLAS but I plan on going to SEAS, would the the credit come from CLAS or SEAS?</p></li>
<li><p>Since I would be taking a few of the classes (Physics and Calculus) again for engineering, albeit at a higher level, would the credits still transfer?</p></li>
<li><p>Would it be worth it to get the credits from DCC this year (~$1000)? With 18 credits total, would it be easier to pursue a double major by using the transferred credits as electives?</p></li>
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<li>You only need to send a transcript to UVA if you want them to evaluate the credits.</li>
<li><p>depends on course
-calculus: APMA</a> >> Calculus Selection
-sts/english: <a href="http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=site%3Aseas.virginia.edu+dual+enrollment&fr=yfp-t-501&u=www.seas.virginia.edu/advising/files/first_semester_fall_2008.doc&w=dual+enrollment&d=bOM6DEfiSBck&icp=1&.intl=us%5B/url%5D">http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=site%3Aseas.virginia.edu+dual+enrollment&fr=yfp-t-501&u=www.seas.virginia.edu/advising/files/first_semester_fall_2008.doc&w=dual+enrollment&d=bOM6DEfiSBck&icp=1&.intl=us</a>
-physics: see above link, as they're picky about AP the same requirements should apply to your college class
-others: same as elective, see above (same as clas)</p></li>
<li><p>the pre-calc won't. the credits for calc would assuming you pass the placement test i think? though i can't guarantee that. physics see above.</p></li>
<li><p>a double major in the eschool? lol. i actually did have an RA who did a double major - one in the eschool and one in the college... insannneeee... chances are you won't double major.</p></li>
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<p>re: credits: it would be worth a shot - at best you place out of calc and physics (physics is the notorious hard class in the eschool 1st yr curriculum) and at worst you have elective credits which could still probably make your life easier.</p>
<p>plus you're applying to other schools, right? don't base your credit decisions on uva. my brother desperately wanted to go to duke where they only take 2 classes/6 credits transfer pre-matriculation. turns out he didn't even get in there and now he's at michigan where his ap and transfer credits are helping out his crazy chemistry major schedule.</p>
<p>btw, all of the information is available by searching for dual enrollment in that box on the main seas page.</p>
<p>So you are saying that for Physics and Calculus, the credit would depend on whether I placed out of the course at UVA or not? And Pre-Cal wouldn't count all? All five courses from DCC have equivalent courses at UVA (in CLAS, based on <a href="https://www.web.virginia.edu/Analyzer/%5B/url%5D">https://www.web.virginia.edu/Analyzer/</a>). If I didn't place out of courses, they would still count as electives though?</p>
<p>SEAS is different than CLAS. The credits they assign are different, and what will place you out of SEAS classes is different. One school doesn't necessarily "assign" credits, but since you'd enter SEAS, math/science credits would have to fulfill SEAS classes, and any other humanitarian classes would be matched up with CLAS classes. Since you're taking duel-enrollment, not APs, it's a little tricky.
Pre-Calc won't transfer as anything, just Calc I or Calc II. Physics I would be possible to transfer, as long as you get a C or higher and the course meets UVA's requirements. English may opt you out of STS101, but I'm not sure. Gov't/other humanitarian classes would count as electives.
As far as what kind of credit you'll get from math/science courses, it's up to the SEAS office. You'll probably end up receiving credit for Calc I/Physics I, but that's just my guess. Unless both classes are just the typical high school level material, in which you would receive no credit. I wouldn't sweat these kind of details right now. You have no idea if you're accepted or not, and they could change these policies between now and next August, so it wouldn't matter anyways. Plenty of people come in with no credits and do just fine.
Also, I'm not sure what you're trying to double major in, but double-majoring in the E-school is difficult...really difficult. If you want to do something like Mech-Aero double, that's do-able. But if you're looking at a SEAS major and a CLAS major, it's going to be difficult, whether you come in with credits or not. You would basically need 20-30 credits of intro work done to make much of a difference. I would try to figure out what major you're truly passionate about and go after it and see if you can do the secondary or not, or just roll into college and see what interests you and concentrate on it.</p>
<p>To clarify on your last post:
1) If the DEnroll. class you took satisfies the UVA equivalent course in the right school (SEAS for engineering pre-reqs, CLAS everything else), then you would get UVA credit. If not, you would not get any credit transferred and you would have to take the class again at UVA.
2) If the DE class doesn't give you UVA credit, it doesn't give you credit. "Placing out" of a class means you received credit for it elsewhere (DE in your case) and you're awarded credit for it without taking it at UVA. But if this doesn't happen, you don't get credit for it, so it isn't an elective either. Unless, for instance, you took a class that has an equivalent at UVA but that class doesn't fulfill SEAS requirements (you get credit for Physics 101 when SEAS wants you to take Physics 201).</p>
<p>What you may try doing is taking the DE classes to give you some solid coursework foundation to self-study for the AP exams.</p>
<p>You may especially want to consider this for physics because I don't think you're going to be awarded 6 credits worth of physics credit for a 4 credit course. If you aced that college physics class, just take a study-guide for AP Physics C, self-study a bit and it shouldn't be hard to get at least a 4 on both exams. </p>
<p>Now with Gov, English, etc. you might be given better chances of getting all your credits to transfer, but I still suggest self-studying for AP exams for the very same subjects you are taking. A double-insurance, so to speak. And it's not really self-study either -- chances are, you will have covered the same material in class and it's just a case of touching up the differences.</p>
<p>EDIT: Oh yeah, I'll echo everyone here by recommending that you also look at the policies of your other desired schools besides UVA before making a decision.</p>
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a double major in the eschool? lol. i actually did have an RA who did a double major - one in the eschool and one in the college... insannneeee... chances are you won't double major.
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<p>Don't stifle someones interest without a good reason. I'm sure the OP is capable on deciding for themselves how easy/hard it will be for them.</p>
<p>I don't remember the exact numbers (most recent UVA Engineering magazine IIRC) - but something like 15% double major and 50% go for a minor. If anything there are ways that SEAS policies are better for double majors (unlike CLAS, you can double count more than two courses and there isn't a policy of a max 2majors/1minor).</p>
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Minor note on this... while credits may vary, they're often interchangeable (some additional bureacracy may be required). Say whether you enroll in SEAS or CLAS will determine whether calculus translates to APMA or MATH credits. However you can use both interchangeably (for certain equivalent courses).</p>
<p>In general, as previously mentioned by others, while it would be a good idea to consider UVA credit policies with regards to what is worth taking. Ultimately though that probably shouldn't be the key deciding factor - you might end up going elsewhere (plus the extra knowledge wouldn't hurt).</p>
<p>Official numbers I've heard are 12% double, 40% minor. A large number of that 15% is doubles within the e-school, such as Aero/Mech, CpE/CompSci, and CpE/EE, though. And only about 40% have a declared minor, many less actually complete it. Double-majoring isn't impossible, but it's not wise to plan to do such.<br>
And while certain credits are "interchangeable", there are key math classes where the CLAS/SEAS programs differ. Calc I/II, though, is pretty much calculus, no matter where/when you take it. And Physics is done through CLAS regardless, so for him, the CLAS vs SEAS criteria doesn't really matter. Good catch.</p>
<p>well, i didnt mean to come off as mean, and i was going to append "you could proly do a minor though" but figured that went without saying. in any case, with 15% being the statistic, it is still good to in with open eyes. besides, double majors are somewhat over-rated : if you're aiming for grad school, wouldn't it be better just to take advanced classes in one major with all of those extra electives?</p>