<p>Hi,</p>
<p>is anyone here doing dual enrollment in community college? How does it feel?
What problems do you meet? How are the people?
I'm at the point where I'd have to choose between community college and IB and I'm afraid I'll be surrounded by school dropouts and 40-years old men over there :\
Tnx,
- Chip</p>
<p>Ooh, dropout, that might become me:P
IB? Are you still in High School?</p>
<p>(This advice might be a little redundant for you, Chip ;))</p>
<p>Well, my situation's been a little different, as I'm only doing the dual-enrollment program for a little over a year, but I think it depends a lot on which high school you currently go to and which community college you'd go to. I was lucky enough to go to a small, almost brand-new community college with amazing teachers. For the most part, class selection is really important in dual-enrollment. If you're focused on higher level classes, like Calculus, you're not going to find too many dropouts. However, in classes like art and English 101, I'd imagine you'll probably find a lot more. Even in those classes though, my classmates were actually a step above those at my high school - they wanted to be there. Another benefit of dual enrollment is that classes move really quickly. For me, the ability to go at a much faster pace than even the AP's at my high school was well worth it.</p>
<p>I think the general consensus is to go with dual-enrollment if you're planning on staying in-state, AP/IB if you're aiming for ultraselective schools.</p>
<p>I went to a fairly low-level CC for dual credit and took really basic classes (english 111, 112, Math 050, 111), because they didn't even offer any higher level classes. I went in with a really bad attitude, expecting most of the people there to be either complete dropouts, really old, or completely stupid. I was completely wrong. Yes there were people like that, but there were also a lot of peopl just out of high school, who just didn't do as well in high school or simply couldn't afford anything better. I actually ended up making several good freinds that I still talk to. I really enjoyed my CC experience and would recommend it to anyone.
... just try not to go into it with the attitude I had!</p>
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Ooh, dropout, that might become me:P
IB? Are you still in High School?
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I'm a rising sophomore and I'll exhaust math of my school by Senior year. Besides, I'd love flexible schedule for research, learning French, and still staying in my school (for athletics).
Zpm, I suppose I should base my decisions upon your admissions :D
But you're probably right, there should be smart people doing hard classes by simple logic.</p>
<p>I personally know that don't know why colleges care about AP/IB more than dual. Seriously, APish math and, say, history doesn't go beyond Calculus and European/American history, at the point where in dual enrollment you can perfectly study differential equations and linear algebra, along with, hmmm, "Russian history." However, since my school doesn't allow me to do anything beyond Calc AB I'll think I won't be dramatically penalized for not doing it :)</p>
<p>I recommend that you take IB. It's a wonderful program. In my school district, all the good teachers go there. It's a LOT of work.</p>
<p>Take night classes at your community college. I don't know about your local community college, but it doesn't compare to the academic rigor or sophistication of IB at my school.</p>
<p>If I don't have Pre-calc during sophomore, IB won't let me test-out out of it and get into Math HL. Also, I'm not positive on chances of getting into physics HL IB HS which means I'll have to do Bio HL and Math SL -- hmm...</p>
<p>Duel enrollment sucks. I'm in it... and it's boring. I spend three hours on pointless stuff. And I don't learn anything. And the people in my class didn't know much. They didn't know how to use a TI-83.</p>
<p>-_-</p>
<p>I'd go for science classes at CCs. But for math... I would probably avoid.</p>
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Duel enrollment sucks. I'm in it... and it's boring. I spend three hours on pointless stuff. And I don't learn anything.
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What math classes do you take at CC?
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I'd go for science classes at CCs. But for math... I would probably avoid.
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I'll exhaust IBish math by the end of 11th grade and I certainly need to move somewhere since I don't have anything mathematical in my school for 11th and 12th grade -- that's if I don't move anywhere.
I'm generally thinking that there should be smart people in high level math but just not sure about general atmosphere.</p>
<p>I took U.S. government and macroeconomics dual enrollment and I can tell you from experience that the amount of work you do and the degree of difficulty heavily depends upon the teacher you have. The classes were cool, and were different than your typical average high school classes in the fact that they felt more like a college class. No one's there to baby you, you don't have daily homework, and you are pretty much on your own. Read the text and take notes and you should be fine.</p>
<p>OK this is a really dumb question, but can someone tell me what is the difference between dual-credit classes at the CC vs AP classes at a high school?</p>
<p>(I'm a mom of a homeschooled son taking dual-credit, so I don't know much about high school AP.)</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Does anyone on here take a similar program within their high schools? I know at my school there are only 5 AP classes, but about 10 classes taught in the high school for college credit... Syracuse U project advance, SUNY in the high school and such</p>
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OK this is a really dumb question, but can someone tell me what is the difference between dual-credit classes at the CC vs AP classes at a high school?
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Well, basically AP classes are just "hard classes" at school that teach you for the AP tests. Those tests make you qualify for different sorts of credits at college. Dual enrollment on the other hand, is specifically taking college classes and they're usually deeper and broader than AP -- however, they are harder to transfer to universities.</p>
<p>Okay Ill break down dual enrollment right now because im in it.</p>
<p>Pros:
- Easier to get an AA degree you dont even have to take a IB or AP test and then you have two years of college done rather than 1 for IB.
- Depending on the teacher, its much easier than high school, maybe a regular class at high school?
- The envirnoment is good. The students are ready to learn and the campus is pretty (mine is).</p>
<p>Cons:
- Driving to and fro campus and high school.
- Missing high school.
- Sometimes having a harder teacher in certain cases.
- Having LOADS of homework and it NEVER being collected.</p>
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- Depending on the teacher, its much easier than high school, maybe a regular class at high school?
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I'm always questioning myself, how in the holy world can CC be easier if HS doesn't even OFFER such deep courses as CC does?</p>
<p>Depth isn't really the key. It''s more of courseload and the type of assignments you receive.</p>
<p>I just enrolled yesterday for an English class that is taught in our high school, but it's for dual-credit. Also, I am taking a Webpage Design (Cis 155) for college credit. I don't even have to leave the building either!:)</p>
<p>Also, I am taking Calculus and could possibly take the AP test if I wanted at the end of the year. Finally, I'm taking ACC American Problems thru Saint Louis University which give me college credit thru them with the opportunity to take the AP test as well if desired.</p>