<p>Hello Parents, I know that this forum is richest on these sorts of advice :)</p>
<p>Basically, I'm worried about my decision to take route that will finally best fit me in dual enrollment in nearby community college. The other option was to transfer to IB high school. However, I had to choose one of them because I've exhausted my school and won't have anything serious during Junior year.
I'm really looking into community college's classes, I like that college, I would study what I like, I would go higher in mathematics and physics, I'd have flexible schedule and all those sort of things.
However, I'm worried that colleges would give more respect to IB transfer.
Please, tell me that top-notch CC courses are viewed same as IB :))
I would appreciate any advice.</p>
<p>I don't have an answer, but why don't you want to do the IB? </p>
<p>Another option that many states have is a public residential high school. Missouri's is on a college campus and is for HS Jr/Sr years. The students take college classes and at the end of Sr year they're supposed to have an associate's degree as well as a HS diploma. Other states may do it differently, but it might be something to look into if your state has one, since it sounds like you are 'out-growing' high school.</p>
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I don't have an answer, but why don't you want to do the IB?
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Well, it's pretty painful to transfer to another school -- number one.
I'd have overlaps since I have AP Calc AB in 10th and will have to take it one more time as Mathematics HL -- number two. I'll have to study IB Biology HL since they don't have any Physics HL and I wouldn't have flexible schedule to allow me conduct research at university -- number three.
Finally, I'd have to compete against my team in wrestling while I'll stay with it if I'd choose Dual-Enrollment. And also I would not be able to study physics.</p>
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What area are you in? Which CC would you be attending? Are you hoping to get into an Ivy or top tier school? What are your long range goals?
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I'm in Washington state, King county, planning to attend Greenriver</a> CC. I'm trying to shoot for UChicago and Cornell/Columbia. I'm sure I'll get into UWashington in case of failure and in case of DE I'll probably be able to finish it in less than two years with transfer and AP credit from 10th grade.</p>
<p>I plan to get PhD in Physics after undergraduate but those are long-term goals for which I can't predict :)</p>
<p>Have you considered leaving HS entirely and actually going to a four-year college? I think UWash has an early entrance program, among many others.</p>
<p>Have you fulfilled all your graduation requirements (perhaps except PE?) In that case, you should consider graduating early and applying to a four-year college.
If you enroll full time in a community college, you may have to apply to a four-year college as a transfer student rather than as a freshman, and it is harder to be admitted as a transfer.<br>
As long as you combine high school classes and cc classes, you should be okay for applying to four-year colleges. But look into the impact on your transcript (especially GPA) of taking cc classes.
Or you could apply as an early entrant to UW as Dmd suggests.</p>
<p>My d. did 66 credits - through the community college, Evergreen State, and St. Martin's University, applied to all schools as a first year, and threw away all the credits, and "graduated" after what would have been "10th grade" - my d. never set foot in a high school classroom (she homeschooled the rest.) We found no college or university that had any problem with this approach.</p>
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If you enroll full time in a community college, you may have to apply to a four-year college as a transfer student rather than as a freshman, and it is harder to be admitted as a transfer.
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Are you sure? I don't think out-of-state-private-and-all-that-stuff colleges accept transfer credits from CC. I'll still get my high school diploma by end of 12th grade and won't go for associate. Even if schools would accept me as a transfer, I'd still have the option of sending school transcript only where I'd have every college classes?</p>
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Have you considered leaving HS entirely and actually going to a four-year college? I think UWash has an early entrance program, among many others.
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No, I don't think I really met all entrance requirements including English and social studies, as well as foreign language for UWash.
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Have you fulfilled all your graduation requirements (perhaps except PE?) In that case, you should consider graduating early and applying to a four-year college.
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Neither :( My specific point is that I've basically skipped sophomore year courses and while regularly people take Honors World History and H. English I'm taking Junior's APUSH/APLang. However, I only placed out of sophomore year's courses but haven't gotten credit for them. But I don't have enough credits to graduate even after Junior year.
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But look into the impact on your transcript (especially GPA) of taking cc classes.
<p>If you don't have enough credits to graduate after junior year, then you should take a mix of high school and college courses. I called the Harvard Admission Office when my son was a sophomore and wondering whether to graduate early as he was likely to want to take lots of college classes in senior year. I was told that if he enrolled full time in community college, he would be considered a transfer student. So you could take three cc classes per semester and be okay. Of course, I only checked with one college. Others may have quite different policies.</p>
<p>As far as cc vs. IB, there may be a difference in the way Advanced Standing is decided. Three IB HL scores of 6 or 7 will get you AS in colleges that do grant AS. Some colleges, but by no means all, will grant credit for cc classes. Some will allow students who have taken cc classes to place in more advanced classes but will not grant AS credit. My S was eligible for AS on account of his AP classes but not of his college classes. But these college classes allowed him to take more advanced classes.</p>
<p>Really depends on private school. My DS got college credit and high school credit. Check out the individual, actual college(s) you are interested in. As they say on CC, your results may vary.</p>
<p>My S got no credit even for classes that were above and beyond what was required for high school graduation, and even though the classes were at the college where he eventually matriculated. However, I understand that he could have gotten credit at another college which he decided not to attend. :(</p>
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I called the Harvard Admission Office when my son was a sophomore and wondering whether to graduate early as he was likely to want to take lots of college classes in senior year. I was told that if he enrolled full time in community college, he would be considered a transfer student. So you could take three cc classes per semester and be okay. Of course, I only checked with one college. Others may have quite different policies.
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But they can't make go as a transfer student if I attended community college in terms of staying in school, even if I'll loose transfer credit can't they?</p>
<p>Besides, I don't think it would be good idea to drive back and there from CC to school since there's a reasonable amount of distance in between so I'd rather do IB then.
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My S got no credit even for classes that were above and beyond what was required for high school graduation, and even though the classes were at the college where he eventually matriculated. However, I understand that he could have gotten credit at another college which he decided not to attend.
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Well, I'm hoping to use knowledge from CC courses to try to "challenge" courses at college, not sure if it'll work though. I'm perfectly okay with attending university four years as usual freshman applicant. I'm basically looking for research and am shooting at top schools to have those good research opportunities :)</p>
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Really depends on private school. My DS got college credit and high school credit. Check out the individual, actual college(s) you are interested in. As they say on CC, your results may vary.
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I only checked MIT and it says that I'll still be a freshman applicant even with dual-enrollment. I'm going to check other schools, but well, college classes would go into my high school transcript for my high school graduation so I have thought of them as usual AP classes which don't make you a transfer no matter how many of them you took.</p>
<p>Well, we were in close contact with the Harvard Admissions office as well. And they had no problem with considering my d. a freshman, even with 66 credits (some with four-year universities) and APs on top of that. They just considered it an advanced high school curricula.</p>
<p>She found better research opportunities at Smith, starting with a paid research assistantship in her first two years.</p>
<p>The only place I've ever heard this being a problem is among state schools in California, where there is a huge enrollment crunch.</p>
<p>I talked to some UChicago admissions folks back when my S was considering running start at a community college. We were advised against it. We were told that the admissions folks knew the HS and its curriculum, but had no way of evaluating the CC courses; the college might be great or not, they had no way of knowing. We were back again when S had the opportunity of leaving HS after 10th grade to attend the honors program at the local flagship state U. S wanted to go to Chicago even if he went for a couple of years to State U. While he could be awarded credit for some of the course work, he was told that if he did this it would be best if he applied as a first year and not as a transfer. However, they still preferred the HS curriculum for young students.</p>
<p>He decided to stick with HS and take as challenging a curriculum as he could, it all worked out in the end.</p>
<p>Mini's D's experience is not relevant since she was homeschooled (which, as adcoms know, does not mean taught entirely by parents and often involves taking college classes).</p>
<p>If you take college courses to fulfill some high school requirements, eg. four years of math, then these will count as high school courses, even if they happen to be rather high-level college classes. But the problem comes if you wish to take only college courses and take a full load of such courses--the usual load being four per semester. Then you will be considered a full-time college student applying for transfer into a 4-year college. If, however, you were to take 3 college courses per semester plus some high school courses, you would be considered a high school student. An issue which may arise is whether the number of high school classes you must take is reduced if you take cc classes. In our high school, they were not. </p>
<p>My S was on track to fulfill all high school requirements by the end of junior year and had already exhausted the high school curriculum in math and science. And he'd already been taking college classes and was running out of advanced classes he could take in the evening. My S has no intention of using Advanced Standing. His college classes are allowing him to place into more advanced ones but do not count for graduation credit.
Idad has a good point about the difficulty of gauging the quality of community college classes. In that sense, taking AP-Bio is better than taking Intro Bio at the community college. But if a student has exhausted the courses offered at the high school, colleges will look favorably on cc classes.</p>
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Well, we were in close contact with the Harvard Admissions office as well. And they had no problem with considering my d. a freshman, even with 66 credits (some with four-year universities) and APs on top of that. They just considered it an advanced high school curricula.
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This is optimistic! :)</p>
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He decided to stick with HS and take as challenging a curriculum as he could, it all worked out in the end.
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Well, as I said, I don't think anyone knows my HS, it is two years old. Also, I just physically wouldn't be able to take challenging curriculum since I have no math for 11th/12th grade (well, except for AP Stats), no social studies for 12th grade and no English for 12th grade.</p>
<p>IB school might be known somewhere but still, I wouldn't be able to fit AP Physics C anywhere perhaps and would end up taking IB Biology for two years.</p>
<p>Would your high school consider online courses? For math and science, consider EPGY. Many have done well on the AP-Calc and Physics C tests by taking distance courses. EPGY is run by the Stanford Division of Continuing Education.<br>
There are distance classes as well in different fields available through Virtual High School (different states have different programs).
The Harvard Extension School also offers distance learning classes. <a href="http://www.extension.harvard.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.extension.harvard.edu/</a></p>
<p>We were told that the admissions folks knew the HS and its curriculum, but had no way of evaluating the CC courses; the college might be great or not, they had no way of knowing.</p>
<p>Was this Uchicago that told you this?</p>
<p>A friend of Ds transferred from his private prep school to a seattle public high school specifically to do running start.
He graduated from Uchicago in 2004- ( Uchicago also accepted his credits and he entered with advanced standing- he didn't actually graduate with a high school diploma, I believe he was just taking entrance requirements)</p>
If you take college courses to fulfill some high school requirements, eg. four years of math, then these will count as high school courses, even if they happen to be rather high-level college classes. But the problem comes if you wish to take only college courses and take a full load of such courses--the usual load being four per semester. Then you will be considered a full-time college student applying for transfer into a 4-year college.
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I have yet AP Bio, AP Literature and aP Government not taken. But the question is that do I HAVE to send college transcript or I can simply send my school transcript?</p>
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Would your high school consider online courses? For math and science, consider EPGY. Many have done well on the AP-Calc and Physics C tests by taking distance courses. EPGY is run by the Stanford Division of Continuing Education.
There are distance classes as well in different fields available through Virtual High School (different states have different programs).
The Harvard Extension School also offers distance learning classes. <a href="http://www.extension.harvard.edu/%5B/url%5D%5B/quote%5D">http://www.extension.harvard.edu/
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Unless they have some sort of financial aid, I don't think my parents could handle it and I haven't found anything about fin.aid there :</p>