Hey guys, I was wondering what you all thought an out of state east coast white middle class male would need to be accepted to Duke and Upenn. I really want to go to either one of these schools.
I live in MD.
<p>TOUGH. UPENN i do not care what the DUKIES tell you is reallllllllllly hard to get into RD more so than Duke and that is of course just an opinion....Duke is mad tough as well...but Penn takes 50 percent of its class ED so the RD acceptance rate is like 14-15 percent...which is getting verrry low...think about it...about 1.5 for every 10 applicants.</p>
<p>I heard an out of state applicant to duke was a lot harder than it seems since they bring in a lot of in state people that drag the sat score down the compensate for that by bringing in really high out of staters...</p>
<p>Duke may be slightly more lenient on in-staters, but not by much. They're both similar difficulty (Provided you're applying to CAS at Penn, not Wharton). If it makes a difference to you, ED at Penn will help you out statistically more than ED at Duke.</p>
<p>Yeah I really doubt that the quality of instaters at Duke is "lower" than that of out of staters. Duke tries to take about 15% of the incoming class from NC I believe but since its a private institution and not public, it has no quotas it must meet and therefore doesnt have to take 15% every year, sometimes maybe 14, 13%, etc... I'm sure the NC apps they take warrant an acceptance based on merit.</p>
<p>Admissions-wise, the quality of the applicant pool at Penn CAS and Duke is pretty much the same I think. I agree with previous posters regarding the specifics: ED at Penn = more advantage than ED at Duke, and RD at Penn = less advantage than RD at Duke cuz 50% of Penn's incoming class is filled by ED as already mentioned.</p>
<p>Duke's in-staters are by no means slackers when it comes to SAT scores, class rank, GPA, etc. Duke does, however, try to accept around 15% of each class from the Carolinas (SC and NC combined for that percentage). They do end up turning away many, many Carolinas' applicants, too, since so many apply due to the school's reputation and proximity.</p>
<p>Between Duke and UPenn, I would probably choose UPenn.</p>
<p>not to trolll...i would as well for a variety of reasons that i am not going to discuss right now.</p>
<p>You love Coach K!! Then you would choose Big Blue!</p>
<p>duke in state acceptance rate- 37-40%, overall I think is around 25%, big difference when considering less qualified people usually apply from nc (for several reasons).</p>
<p>Go Duke. Better over-all package at Duke.</p>
<p>see the thing is... I am absolutely in love with basketball, and I want to have a great college social experience. I know both of these colleges have a fairly social crowd. With Duke though- the Kamren Krazies (or however you spell it) would be amazing. I would be thrilled to get into either of the two. But that is the first thing I have to focus on is just getting into one of them.</p>
<p>But I have visited the UPENN campus and I really liked the setup there, so Im completely in the middle of a duke-upenn decision scale.</p>
<p>So you have bought your tent to camp out in K'ville awaiting tickets to the big b'ball games.......GO BIG BLUE</p>
<p>Haha, and at Duke everyone is into basketball there and I dont know... :) that would just be a great college atmosphere.... Man Decisions, decisions.</p>
<p>All things B<em>L</em>U*E</p>
<p>Duke rocks! Theres a bunch of special programs and activities they have that I didnt even know about at the time I applied and enrolled - but found out about afterwards which made me even more glad to be a Blue Devil - for example - they have FOCUS which is really unique (small interdisciplinary seminar courses based around a specific field of knowledge, shared living with your classmates from your program, and weekly dinners with your professors - this is for the first semester of freshman year), they have awesome summer preorientation programs called Project WILD which is a 2 week backpacking/hiking/climbing experience in the NC mountains and they have Project BUILD - I believe its a 1 week service-oriented program around Durham. Their weeklong orientation program for incoming students is awesome - they have so many activities to do, including a visit by Maya Angelou. In addition, Duke likes to bring people to campus to discuss issues of relevance - for ex., the author of our summer reading book this year will be coming to campus to talk to us later this Fall about his book which will offer an interesting and unique perspective. All these programs are just for incoming freshman, and I'm sure there will be more along the way in the next 4 years. There are so many little things they do that just seem unparalleled after talking to my friends who are at different schools.</p>