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<p>this is not going to come until you have a couple of years work experience under your belt.</p>
<p>agreed…a lot of people told me that…so then out of those three places…which ones might give me the best job placement opportunities when I graduate?</p>
<p>If all you care about is reputation, then NYU.</p>
<p>From 2004 to 2008, NYU was acknowledged as the “Dream School” of thousands of students and their parents.</p>
<p>Another thing you may want to think about is international reputation/ prestige and NYU has all of those beat by far. I don’t know why but over in Europe, middle east and Asia NYU is viewed equal to Harvard, Cambridge</p>
<p>Re: international Reputation, I’ve no idea where you got that from, but that’s the first time I’ve ever heard or read that assertion made. And I have a degree from NYU.</p>
<p>I would imagine Cornell is better-known internationally, due largely to its colleges of engineering, architecture and agriculture, as well as physical sciences (Nobel Prize winners). Its alumni include former heads of state of Iran, Taiwan, Cuba and Thailand, and ambassadors to the US from Singapore and China.</p>
<p>But whether this affects OP is dubious.</p>
<p>Duke- I want to do the whole college experience…I am really outgoing so the social life is perfect for me…it’s warm, I am from the South, so this is a big plus, and also I went to a small boarding school…want a college that’s bigger but not too big, great professors, and I think it’s the best feeder school out of these three…cons…I can’t do much acting, far from all my friends which are going to NE schools, also heard it’s super cliquey and the guys…at least the athletes…are kinda jerks…also seen the gossip on juicy campus eekkk (any dukies care to dispel this rumor? would make me really happy!)</p>
<p>Please don’t take Juicy Campus seriously. It’s honestly probably representative of less than 5% of the campus, and 5% is being generous. Sure some guys are jerks here, but I’d be surprised if there was a school without jerks. You’ll find that the majority of guys here are plenty friendly. It should be pretty easy to get involved with the performing arts groups here. They’re pretty small, supportive, friendly, and enthusiastic. However, it’s probably not a super great program rank-wise, but all the people that I’ve met are great. Duke doesn’t have a business school, so I suppose you would major in Economics or get the Marketing and Management Certificate. Recruiters don’t seem to really mind, though, as we do very well in fields like consulting and finance. </p>
<p>Anyway, it sounds like you would be really happy here. Best of luck with your decision!</p>
<p>monydad: What do you have against the South, anyway? Duke is pretty far from the stereotypical southern red-neck image.</p>
<p>I don’t have anything against the south per se, it’s just that I believe I fit better culturally with Northern states. Duke may be what it is, but one has to go off campus sometimes as well, in fact OP stated he wants to. At one point I was considering a job in North Carolina, and IIRC found data indicating there were only 30,000 people of my particular persuasion in the entire state of North Carolina. Recent regional voting patterns also indicate a degree of cultural incompatibility.</p>
<p>But OP doesn’t have the same issues, and its his decision to make, not mine.</p>
<p>As for jobs out of college, poster gellino has posted college “target schools” he’s encountered most frequently in IB analyst jobs in NYC; Duke is five slots above Cornell on his “top 25” list, NYU isn’t on it. I’m not in the field now, no basis to contradict him. For other finance related jobs around NYC I imagine NYU does fine. There will likely be some regional influences at play in recruiting. Meaning local carolina banks won’t be recruiting at NYU, and vica versa.</p>
<p>DUKE UNIVERSITY</p>
<p>After reading this entire chat, I have to be honest in saying that no one has been really that insightful about any of the schools. It appears that everything is based on numbers and what is written, but as someone that has visited all three and knows kids attending all three, let me give you my take, and hopefully it will provide some insight.</p>
<p>NYU is a school based on the idea that “The City is Our Backyard.” There is no main campus, but rather a collection of buildings. It is in a relatively safe part of Manhattan, with relatively being a loose term based on what you are used to (personally from area near New Haven, CT so felt not as bad). The students are obviously all bright, but are especially gifted in their single given concentration. For example the students I know who are attending are incredible in music (piano) and mathematics, yet are not as phenomenal all around. That is not to say they are dumb or degrade them in any way, for they are truly bright students in all regards, but they are more superb and savant like in one area and slightly less superb in others, such as, say, English. Yet you have to be 100% positive on what you want. You have to know that you are a definite businessman, because if you change, it will cost you a pretty penny to retake classes. Overall, good school.
US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT RANKINGS
Nation- 33
World- 40</p>
<p>Cornell is also a phenomenal school based in upstate New York. As an Ivy League school it commands some respect, although amongst other Ivy League students it is a bit of a punch line (when I shadowed at Dartmouth there was a lot of ill-humored jokes about Big Red). The school does offer opportunities that other universities don’t, such as the study of human ecology. It is different in that it promotes movement amongst the undergraduates, allowing for one to switch their major easily. However, the size of the school could be overwhelming. Over 13,000 kids call Cornell home, which is significantly larger then Duke or NYU and less fostering of community. Likewise, Cornell is known for incredibly tough classes in which professors go out of their way to make tests harder. The reverse grade inflation, or grade deflation if you will, has caused the stereotype that students are miserable and suicidal. This is why you may have heard of their “suicide bridge.” Finally, students coming out of Cornell at times find it tough to attain high quality graduate programs. On a personal side, I know two Cornell grads that have been unable to get into medical school, despite being brilliant students and doing great on MCATs. Overall, though, it is also a good school.
US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT RANKINGS
Nation- 14
World- 15</p>
<p>Finally, there is Duke in the warm summer heat of Durham, NC. The school is renowned for its great athletics, international student body, and challenging academics. The campus, for starters, is incredibly beautiful. The West Campus, for upperclassman, is that of gothic architecture, while East Campus, for freshman, is the traditional southern brick. The facilities are modern, with great food. In addition, the students were incredibly friendly and warm. There was definitely a feeling of intelligence and openness. The student body is very driven at Duke. They are one of the biggest feeders to Wall Street, and the biggest hirer of graduates is none other then Goldman Sachs (the most stable and influential Investment Banking firm in the world). It is ranked 6th by the Wall Street Journal for job placement and graduate school selection only behind Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and Williams. Plus the life on campus is like that of the traditional college student. There is great athletics, awesome night/party life, and phenomenal intellectual opportunities. Plus there is a vast amount of money set aside for student research, as it is one of the leading undergraduate research universities in the world. In my opinion, by far the best of the three.
US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT RANKINGS
Nation- 8
World- 13</p>
<p>If you are looking to where you will find the best time, best kids, best social life, best academics, and best fun, go to Duke. While Cornell and NYU are nice, they just cannot compare to the traditional college life of Duke. If you are by the numbers, Duke is the most selective of the three (17% overall vs. 19.1% Cornell and 23% NYU). If you go by the feelings, Duke is the best. While in the Northeast there is the stigma that the Ivy League is everything, the rest of the nation and world will tell you it is not. Duke is easily on par with Columbia, Dartmouth, Brown, and Penn, and possibly a rung up on Cornell. Good luck with your decision. I’d go with the Blue Devils.</p>
<p>Based on your initial post, it is tailored to favor NYU, but it would be my 4th choice based on your list. The institutions are superior overall, unless you are 1000% you want to do business, but your interests I suspect will change depending upon what opportunities come your way.</p>
<p>“NYC is about as civilized as it gets.”</p>
<p>This is HIGHLY debatable haha. It could in fact be the direct opposite.</p>
<p>Generally good post by andy.</p>
<p>However one small correction:</p>
<p>Over 13,000 kids call Cornell home, which is significantly larger then Duke or NYU…</p>
<p>NYU has 21000+ undergraduates according to the College Board, which actually makes it larger than Cornell student-body wise. Take what you will from that.</p>
<p>Duke is an incredible feeder into business, perhaps more so than Stern. I think the sacrifice of not having a social community (i.e “traditional college experience”) makes NYU a no-go in my book.</p>
<p>Between Amherst, Duke, and Cornell its a tough call. Duke is the best overall balance in my book, but Cornell’s access to Ithaca and theater might be important enough for you to choose it. Amherst is a great school but I think you might prefer the larger student bodies of Cornell or Duke.</p>
<p>Andy, care to explain how Duke is “by far” better than Cornell? You entire post is WAY OFF. Life at Cornell/Ithaca is hard to beat and Duke/Durham is not the combo that manages that feat. Of course, if college Basketball is your thing (and to many, it is), then Duke is a better choice than Cornell. However, to most students, life at Cornell is very rewarding. And acceptance rates are meaningless since Cornell has colleges of Agriculture, Architecture, Hotel Management and Human Ecology. Last time I checked, Duke only had colleges of Arts and Sciences and Engineering. If you compare apples to apples, selectivity at those two academic marvels would be roughly identical. Finally, reputationally, both schools enjoy equally lofty positions both on the East Coast, nationally and internationally. I really don’t understand how you can claim (rather ignorantly and certainly incorrectly) with such confidence that Duke is in any way better than Cornell. It isn’t. Your post is misleading. </p>
<p>And in terms of size, Cornell has 20,000 students, vs 13,500 at Duke and 40,000 at NYU, so Cornell is not that much larger than Duke and it is significantly smaller than NYU.</p>
<p>I also disagree that Duke offers any more of the traditional college experience than Cornell. And Cornell’s reputation of grade deflation and being stressful is oft-exaggerated.</p>
<p>Yea my bad NYU is larger then Cornell. 21,269 NYU v 13,846 Cornell my bad.</p>
<p>@Alexandre</p>
<p>Well my reasoning behind Duke being better then Cornell for this particular reason is due to the fact that he wants to be in business and theater in some way. Cornell’s Applied Economics and Management major is very good if you can get in, and if he is in I would recommend it over Duke. It is phenominal. But for just a general economics or mathematics major I would go with Duke. And I think that the traditional life at Duke does beat the more nontraditional life at Cornell. Yes, both are good schools and ranked well. Yes both produce great alumni connections. But I think that your experience at Duke, with warm weather, more diversity (JBHE rank #1), and the party scene beats freezing to death. Plus Duke has Durham. What does Cornell have, Alexandre? The woods? Maybe a recluse living in a tent?</p>
<p>To chime in on behalf of Cornell - Ummmm…Ithaca!!! Blows Durham out of the water in terms of a cool place to hang out and party. I’ve been to Durham a few too many times…it ain’t no chapel hill.</p>
<p>A point that is being lost is that you’re not comparing NYU to Cornell or Duke, because Cornell or Duke win hands down. You’re comparing NYU STERN to Cornell and Duke, because of that you should go to Stern because it will give you a little bit of everything that you want: best business, acting, and a CAS where you can take whatever without being bound to just business. And you’ll be in a city that has A LOT of everything so really the world is your playground as where in Cornell you may get lost in the snow. Decide not looking at NYU, but looking at STERN because that is where this competition lies.</p>
<p>I’m going to Cornell next year and I’d say it is between Duke and Cornell. The 2 schools share many cross-admits. Cornell AEM (or Econ) vs. Duke Econ = equal, Cornell Social Life vs. Duke Social Life = equal, prestige = equal. Catch my drift? Both are exceptional schools, but let me nudge you to Cornell haha</p>
<p>I would say Amherst lol.</p>
<p>No, I wouldn’t rule Amherst out either, but I thought the OP already did. If so, it should be Cornell vs Duke</p>