DUKE VS Cornell

<p>is Duke better than Cornell in general ?</p>

<p>I think NW, DUKE, CORNELL, U. OF Chicago are in same level except that Cornell is an ivy League
What do you think ?</p>

<p>not really</p>

<p>except for prestige, academics, rank, graduate school, social scene, and of course - SPORTS</p>

<p>Duke (1340-1540)
Cornell (1290-1500)</p>

<p>That alone, makes Duke better.</p>

<p>Cornell Arts & Sciences/Engineering have a slightly higher SAT 25th-75th range but it is still lower than Duke's range.
More people pick Duke over Cornell.
Last year, many people who were accepted off Duke's waitlist on College Confidential were saying "Sayonara" to Cornell.</p>

<p>It's each to his own though. Classes are smaller at Duke.
There is more school spirit at Duke than Cornell.</p>

<p>This next part is purely anecdotal but I have heard nightmare stories about the cutthroat competition in Cornell that I couldn't even imagine occurring in Duke's purely pre-med class and I was in the highly competitive freshman Orgo section!
However, most people who go to Duke love their experience and vice versa with Cornell.</p>

<p>It is simply ridiculous to say that Cornell is better than Duke.</p>

<p>More people pick Duke over Cornell.</p>

<p>I agree with your points re Duke being more desirable than Cornell, save for the yield assertion. </p>

<p>The New York Times compiled a cross-admit table in 2006, at which time Cornell bested Duke in cross-admit marticulation 54 to 46%. Do you have more recent or authoritative data? </p>

<p>The</a> New York Times > Week in Review > Image > Collegiate Matchups: Predicting Student Choices</p>

<p>I am sorry for bringing that awful "New York Times" website on to this thread.
I'm too lazy to check but what's the margin of error on that? I couldn't find it.
How many of those high school seniors were actually accepted to Duke and Cornell?
If this question can't be answered, then this survey is irrelevant.
It only says it is based on 3,200 high school seniors from 500 schools around the country.</p>

<p>Cornell has slightly more recognition as an academic powerhouse than Duke because of its "Ivy League" label.
I'll concede that point.
I knew about Duke's basketball before I knew about Duke's academic prestige myself. </p>

<p>It could be some random high school senior who is like, "Well, I'm not applying to Duke or Cornell.. but hmmmm... Ivy? Basketball? I hate college basketball. Ivies are cool. I'd pick Cornell."</p>

<ul>
<li>How much do you like snow? You'll get tons of it at Cornell (67 inches), and little at Duke (8 inches).</li>
<li>How much do you like college basketball? You'll get tons of it at Duke, and little at Cornell. (Yes, Cornell won the Ivy League last year, but it was the first time the Red won 20 games in a season since 1950; Cornell has had four winning seasons in the last 20 years).</li>
</ul>

<p>what's the margin of error on that? I couldn't find it...If this question can't be answered, then this survey is irrelevant.</p>

<p>The NYT table was based on the NBER paper, which does have statistical analysis. It data are from prior to 2005, and are thus dated. </p>

<p>Ending</a> Early Admissions: Guess Who Wins? - New York Times</p>

<p>SSRN-A</a> Revealed Preference Ranking of U.S. Colleges and Universities by Christopher Avery, Mark Glickman, Caroline Hoxby, Andrew Metrick</p>

<p>The party scene is better at Duke.
Duke's harder to get into.
The SAT average is higher at Duke.
The weather is warmer.
Students are much happpier at Duke.</p>

<p>What does Cornell have besides the Ivy label?
Most people who pick Cornell over Duke are idiots who are aroused by the "Ivy" label.</p>

<p>I think Mondo makes a good point when he says that survey is only valid if you just survey people who got into Duke and Cornell.</p>

<p>Most of the smart people I know would pick Duke over Cornell. I only know one person who turned down Duke for Cornell and he is in the CALS program.</p>

<p>I am sure a lot of dumbasses who could get into neither school salivate over the Ivy label since their ability to go beyond generalizations is weak. They were probably surveyed.</p>

<p>Cornell has a slight advantage in percent admitted and yield, but Duke has a 70 point advantage in average composite SAT. 70 points is a lot. Duke has more upside potential, as it has probably improved its selectivity in the last 20 years in comparison to other competitive colleges, there always being a recognition lag.</p>

<p>Duke</p>

<p>SAT's 25-75 percentiles.</p>

<p>SAT Critical Reading----650---760
SAT Math-----680----780
SAT Writing-----660----750
Composite---1990---2290</p>

<p>Percent admitted 22.7%<br>
Percent admitted who enrolled 40.8% </p>

<p>Cornell</p>

<p>Percent admitted 21.4%<br>
Percent admitted who enrolled 46.3%</p>

<p>SAT Critical Reading---630---730
SAT Math---660---770
SAT Writing ---630---720
Composite---1920---2220</p>

<p>College</a> Navigator - Duke University
College</a> Navigator - Cornell University</p>

<p>You can wear T-shirts and flip flops at Duke in early November and still be warm.
As said previously, Duke has a strong "upside potential" that Cornell hasn't.
Duke is way less stressful but still great academically speaking.
I believe that Duke and Cornell are pretty similar in terms of selectivity so please do not make your decision by considering this criterion. It might vary from year to year and it's really tight.</p>

<p>I hear Cornell has the best dorm food in the nation. Yum!!!</p>

<p>thanks, all of you.</p>