<p>If I don't get into my top choices, these are two schools I'll likely be picking from.
Which school has the better parties?
Which school has the better math program?
Which school is better for someone who wants to go into legit business after college?
Which school has the hotter girls? ;)</p>
<p>best parties - Dartmouth</p>
<p>How touching. Bidding defiance to your Garden State upbringing, you say <em>No</em> to the siren call of organized crime, and instead endeavor to use your Ivy League math degree exclusively for business that is <em>legit</em>.</p>
<p>I’m sure that there are many Duke and Dartmouth students/parents who read this and hope that you grace some other campus with your presence. How about Ole Miss? I’ve heard that the “girls” there are “hot” and the parties are great. And, as at most universities, the math professors are probably a lot more talented than the undergrads.</p>
<p>it’s a little presumptuous to think of both dartmouth and duke as backups. don’t count your chickens before they hatch…but as for my opinion, dartmouth’s math program is better. a teacher of mine studied math there, and it seems like he spent a lot of time working closely with professors. at duke, your interaction with profs would be limited to lectures and the TA’s would help with your problem sets. and Dartmouth grads are more likely to go to wall street, and have the highest mid-career salaries(of any school in the country)</p>
<p>Duke probably has better parties, WAYYYY better sports, better weather. Both are pretty prestigious.</p>
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My sentiments exactly.</p>
<p>Dartmouth 2012
ED applied: 1429
ED accepted: 400 (28%)
ED deferred: 529 (37%)
RD applied: 15107
Total RD pool: 15636
RD accepted: 1790 (11.4%)</p>
<p>Duke 2012
ED applied: 1247
ED accepted: 472 (37.9%)
ED deferred: 419 (33.6%)
RD applied: 19090
Total RD pool: 19509
RD accepted: 3342 (17.1%)</p>
<p>The OP is hardly a shoo-in at either university, even with his stats.</p>
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I am not a Duke fan, but I find this highly suspect. Only four universities do better than Duke in the [Putnam</a> competition<a href=“Harvard,%20Princeton,%20MIT,%20and%20Caltech”>/url</a>. According to interesteddad’s [url=<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/swarthmore/60986-phd-production-math-computer-science.html]PhD”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/swarthmore/60986-phd-production-math-computer-science.html]PhD</a> production list](<a href=“http://www.math.harvard.edu/putnam/]Putnam”>http://www.math.harvard.edu/putnam/), Dartmouth and Duke send almost exactly the same percentage of students to graduate school in mathematics. Clearly Duke students are not suffering from inadequate teaching standards in the math department.</p>
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According to [this</a> site](<a href=“2024 College Rankings by Salary Potential | Payscale”>2024 College Rankings by Salary Potential | Payscale) the median starting pay for Dartmouth and Duke graduates are $58,000 and $58,900, respectively. One would not be disadvantaged by choosing one over the other.</p>
<p>Heh…good one, JW.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see the results of your quest to get into the most selective colleges & universities. With an IQ of 174, your SAT I score should be at or near 2400. What does the rest of your profile contain?
I scanned your earlier posts & read that you have near perfect SAT scores & 5s on 8 of your 10 AP exams. Deferred from Yale. You seem to have an accurate grasp of the campus culture party scene at the schools to which you applied. to the best of my knowledge, both Duke & Dartmouth offer an active social scene in fairly contrasting environments. In my opinion, Vanderbilt University may offer what yu are seeking in a university experience.</p>
<p>Duke is infamous for its drunken orgies and hardcore parties.</p>
<p>My DS, who decided on Dartmouth, visited a friend who was a freshmen at Duke during the search and spent the weekend. He had recently done the same at Dartmouth. While Dartmouth certainly parties, he was shocked at what he saw at Duke. The difference, as he reported it, was Duke’s open acceptance of freshmen getting wasted. Remember, after the frat parties they have to get on a bus to E. campus. Campus security just watches it all whereas at Dartmouth they would actually bust you.</p>
<p>Another thing to consider, do you like to drees to party? Apparently at Duke and Vandy girls clutch Prada’s to go drink punch out of a can. Guys dress to the nines too. That ole Southern charm is alive and well.</p>
<p>So where can you kill more brain cells faster IMO? Duke or any other Southern schools. Those Yankees know when to stop.</p>
<p>“According to this site the median starting pay for Dartmouth and Duke graduates are $58,000 and $58,900, respectively. One would not be disadvantaged by choosing one over the other.”</p>
<p>dartmouth is #1 for MID-CAREER salary, which is defined as 10 years after graduation. it’s hard to have a discussion if you don’t take the time to read people’s posts.</p>
<p>Post #12:Not the yankees at Penn State or Wisconsin.</p>
<p>Isn’t Dartmouth’s unofficial mascot a keg?</p>
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Apparently the people at Duke aren’t quite as slack as you make them out to be, since they’ve handed out more liquor law violation disciplinary actions than Dartmouth for the past three years.</p>
<p>2005: 463 (Duke), 221 (Dartmouth)
2006: 294 (Duke), 153 (Dartmouth)
2007: 301 (Duke), 119 (Dartmouth)</p>
<p>To be fair, Dartmouth makes up in arrests for liquor law violations what it lacks in disciplinary actions.</p>
<p>2005: 5 (Duke), 76 (Dartmouth)
2006: 1 (Duke), 84 (Dartmouth)
2007: 4 (Duke), 59 (Dartmouth)</p>
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Oh, I read your post. I also know that most college students don’t give two hoots about what they’ll be making 10 years after graduation. They’re just looking for a cushy job that pays well right out of college. One can get that at either institution.</p>
<p>IBclass06 that was the stupidest assumption that I’ve read in awhile. Understandably, college students who just graduated are concerned for their starting salaries. But I’m pretty sure that they also care about what happens in the future. Especially in 10 years, which is supposedly the prime of their careers. </p>
<p>I mean, really? seriously?</p>
<p>^ Top wage earners are the 45-54 year old cohort. If you’re at the top of your career in 10 years after graduation, you peaked too early.</p>
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I think the stupidest assumption I’ve read is that one’s alma mater is as important ten years after graduation as it is right after (or before) graduation. Ten years is quite a bit of time, and most people will have done a considerable amount of networking, further education, and/or career changes during that stretch of time – all of which can be entirely independent of one’s undergraduate college. An attempt to compare two college based on earnings ten years down the road is not very helpful; there are simply too many factors involved.</p>
<p>Both places seem like legit party schools.
I’ll have to visit both first.
Thanks!</p>