<p>Comments are appreciated for a premed student!</p>
<p>Does anyone know Michigan's students' rate of acceptance into medical schools? Duke's is 85%.</p>
<p>i'm in your same boat. kinda....
duke or michigan's ross?</p>
<p>Michigan's is 60%-65%.But a larger perecentage of Michigan students with sub-3.3 GPA apply to medical school, which explains why the palcement rate is lower. Two students with identical GPAs and MCATs, one from Duke and one from Michigan, will have equal chances of getting into medical school.</p>
<p>Which of the two appeals more to you. Go for fit.</p>
<p>Um no, Alexandre with all due respect, you're definitely wrong in this scenario. Duke has a med school percentage of 85% for ALL WHO APPLY first of all. Anyhow, here are the statistics for Michigan students who apply to med school following graduation:</p>
<p>Michigan's overall average is 54.5% and only students with a 3.9+ GPA at UMich and a 35 MCAT were accepted to med school at about the same rate as Duke students(87%).</p>
<p>To the OP, unless you are absolutely certain that you can achieve that sort of GPA at Michigan as a premed and that kind of MCAT score, you should definitely pick Duke over Michigan. UMich is a great school for many fields of study but for situations such as this, it isn't the best choice for everybody.</p>
<p>EAD, I am not sure I agree with your numbers. The admit rate for Michigan students with 3.3+ GPAs and 25+ MCAT is roughly 75%. The admit rate for Michigan students with 3.6+ GPAs and 30+ MCATs is 91%. OP, ignore EAD, andf pick the school you prefer.</p>
<p>Alexandre, your numbers about Michigan's admit rates seem quite unbelievable? Can I see your source?</p>
<p>Ironically, those are the numbers according to the link provided by Evil Asian Dictator! I always tell students not to look at placement rates without first looking at the makeup of the applicants. Michigan students with 3.6-4.0 GPAs and with 30+ MCA totals are virtually guaranteed admission into Medical school. Yes, it is not easy to maintain a 3.6 GPA at Michigan, but at the same time, it is not that difficult. </p>
<p>So I reiterate, two students with identical GPAs and MCAT totals, one from Duke and one from Michigan, have equal chances of getting into the same medical schools.</p>
<p>If michigan gave you money...then michigan because it is good solid school.
If michigan didnt give you alot of money...then definately duke casue michigan is cold</p>
<p>Michigan only gave me $1500, so no huge incentive.</p>
<p>What do you think about my trying Duke out for a semester or a year, and then transferring if I don't like it?</p>
<p>rd31, if you like Duke, go for it. It is an awesome school. I don't understand why you are so hesitant.</p>
<p>By the way rd, where did you get the 85% medical school placement rate for Duke? I was under the impression that Duke's medical school placement rate was 75%. Did you include senior applicants as well as alumni applicants? Michigan's 55% placement rate includes both seniors and alumni. Generally speaking, alumni placement rates are lower than senior placement rates, so I would not be surprised if Duke's 85% placement rate is for seniors only.</p>
<p>85% is the overall rate including seniors and alumni according to the admissions people when I visited for Blue Devil Days.</p>
<p>I think you are referring to the 2003 class. The last three years, Duke hasn't had a better than 79% placement rate into medical school for undergads and alums combined and last year, it was 75%, which is still awesome of course. </p>
<p><a href="http://prehealth.trinity.duke.edu/appendix/%5B/url%5D">http://prehealth.trinity.duke.edu/appendix/</a></p>
<p>If you scroll down to figure 1, you will notice that 7 of the last 10 years, the medical school placement rate afor Duke undergrads and alums has been under 80%. </p>
<p>Anyway, the placement rate for Michigan undergrads and alums with GPAs of 3.6 or higher and with MCAT totals of 30 or better is over 90% and the placement rare of Michigan undergrads and alums with GPAs of 3.3 or higher and with MCATs totals of 25 or higher is 75%, so when comparing apples to apples, you won't see too much of a difference. </p>
<p>I really wish Michigan provided as many stats on medical school applications as Duke. Duke provides so many details.</p>
<p>I visited Michigan this past week. I am also a Pre-Med student. Michigan seemed very hesitant to hide their actual numbers. It was actually quite amusing. At the visitors info session there was a powerpoint.</p>
<p>__% acceptance rate into Law School. It was a very good percentage so that was cool. Then, on the SAME slide on the line below.</p>
<p>10% Higher acceptance rate than the national average to Med School.</p>
<p>Me knowing that the national average hovers around 50% realized what they were trying to hide. Overall, with advisors having about 500 kids maybe more each per grade I think I would pick Duke.</p>
<p>bump......</p>
<p>According to the latest Wall Street Journal rankings of undergraduate schools that send the most students to the "feeder" med, law, and business schools, Duke shines as #6 in the country while Michigan sits at #30.</p>
<p>Combine the stellar grad school placement that with warm weather, Top 10 athletics in multiple sports(b-ball!!!), insane school spirit, a gorgeous campus, a small student body, amazing advising, as well as attractive women and you've got yourselves a baller institution.</p>
<p>Are you seriously still even thinking about this?;)</p>
<p>go for duke unless michigan is considerably cheaper and money is an issue...because med school is expensive and all. Its more prestigous..and will look better on a med school app than michigan.</p>
<p>EAD, you are comparing apples to oranges. 20% of Michigan students major in Music, Art, Architecture, Nursing and Kinesiology. Those are all top 10 departments in the nation, but they do not produce future MDs, JDs or MBAs. Furthermore, Michigan is a serious Engineering school, which means that of the 20% who major in Engineering, many of them intend to remain Engineers and if they should enroll into graduate school, it would most certainly be in Engineering. Duke students are almost all engaged in pre-porfessional (pre-law, pre-med and pre-MBA) studies. As such, a significantly larger prostion of Duke students are interested in pursuing professional graduate studies.</p>
<p>Academically, those two universities are pretty even. The only difference is that Michigan has a far more diverse academic pool. And given its top 5 Architecture, Business, Engineering, Music and Nursing programs, it isn't surprising. As such, many students will not pursue graduate studies in the professional fields mentioned in the WSJ. Furthermore, the WSJ is openly biased toward East coast universities. Schools like Chicago, Northwestern, Northwestern, Cal and even Stanford and Caltech, suffer as a result. Finally, we can all agree that given its size and obligation to its resident population, Michigan will unfortunately enroll students who aren't exactly gifted. Those students will receive a fine education but they will not end up working for the McKinseys of the world or enrolling into a top MBA or JD program anytime soon. </p>
<p>But despite their differences, those two amazing universities have equal reputations in both the academic and professional sector. Top graduate schools and exclusive companies alike will take students from both of these universities as seriously as any student in the nation. In short, students with equal credentials and interests will do just as well in either university. </p>
<p>In terms of Athletics, both are amazing. Duke is awesome in BBall and Michigan is awesome in Football and Hockey. I am not sure what other sports Duke is good at, but Michigan also excels in Gymnastics and Swimming. In terms of overall athletics, Michigan is almost always ranked ahead of Duke according to the Director's Cup. </p>
<p>Ann Arbor is nicer than Durham. It is safer, clearner and more pleasant. And the town of Ann Arbor actually likes the University of Michigan whereas Durham really doesn't care much for Duke.</p>
<p>In short, from academics to overall campus/college experience, Michigan is actually just as well rounded as Duke. I don't think the decision is that easy.</p>
<p>I picked Duke!</p>
<p>Congrats rd. Duke is an awesome school. You are going to have a great undergraduate experience there.</p>