Hey,
When you compare the two schools for Early decision, what school tends to look MORE on these categories:
1.) Academic criteria, standarized scores
2.) Extracurricalrs
3.) Community Service, leadership
4.) Minority hook- I am asian-indian
5.) Reccs and Essays
???
<p>any ideas about this issue?</p>
<p>I'd say that these schools would look at all the factors equally. Asian Indian is not a minority. Perhaps however, Duke, being in the south and not being an ivy, has fewer applications from asians than Penn. You can look up the percentages.</p>
<p>Not a minority for admissions purposes at many colleges (especially top schools) that is.</p>
<p>I think Penn looks at essays more importantly than Duke. Duke uses the common app, Penn doesn't. Duke is more on sports than Penn.</p>
<p>I think UPenn..I've seen on some posts that Duke is based on lottery or something like that. If you know anything about this..reply</p>
<p>Duke is much less of a lottery than most top schools. If you have a high GPA, 1500 plus SATs and good ECs, you have a strong chance.</p>
<p>really? Duke does not put much weight into essays?</p>
<p>What about additional stuff like when you submit art samples, dance tapes... or like research papers..?</p>
<p>who takes a look at that?</p>
<p>Uhm, suze, go to the Duke board and you will see plenty of 1550 excellent students got rejected. My two best Indian friends both got over that and they were not even waitlisted. Yes, you have a good chance, but I think it is just as much of a lottery as its peers. Penn is probably moreso considering as how I know people this year who got into Princeton and not Penn, etc. Moreover, Flavian, my tour guide at Duke told me that they look at the essays VERY carefully due to the fact that most applicants have great scores and ECs.</p>
<p>but who takes a BETTER, thorough look into the additional samples as I had mentioned above?</p>
<p>Both schools do.</p>
<p>Wow Devil, really? I guess it depends on school. I go to a very strong one and absolutely no one with above 1530 was rejected in the last 3 years.</p>
<p>Yeah I think it does depend on the school.</p>
<p>Conclusions made from info on the princeton review website:</p>
<p>1) EDGE: Duke (as UPenn considers St. tests important and not very important)
2) EDGE: Duke (Penn considers EC's important as opposed to v. important)
3) EDGE: Penn (leadership is very important at Penn)
4) EDGE: draw (Asian-Indian is far from a hook, Asians are actually<br>
overrepresented at top schools. I am Indian also)
5) EDGE: draw (but I'd give a nod to Upenn, essays are key)</p>
<p>um...I got into Duke, but ED deferred then waitlisted...rejected from Penn. Also, from my school, kids with 1500+ do not really get rejected from duke often. However, a kid with a 1560 got rejected, and ended up at emory.</p>
<p>Go check the Duke admission results thread (if it is still up). It is quite random anywhere you go. I know people who got REJECTED from Penn and got into Princeton, Harvard, etc. I smell pretension, but then I realize that ivies are quite mercurial.</p>
<p>duke is not lottery.. thats bull.. its just more academically oriented than more ppl think. </p>
<p>just dont write 'i love jj reddick' on ur why duke essay.</p>
<p>Uhm....if you say so. :)</p>
<p>I believe Duke admissions does a very thorough job with their admits. Duke admissions places much more of an emphasis on your grades in your high school classes and your 'well-roundedness' as a student. This sorta makes sense (being Duke is big on student activites, sports, research opps, etc.). If you look at the US News rankings, you'd find Duke and UPenn practically identical, giving UPenn an advantage in its selectivity and its lower admissions rate. So sure, UPenn is more selective and looks more at those SATs a bit more closely so it seems, but Duke admissions throughly evaluates the student as a complete package. I've known kids from my high school who got rejected from both with a 1500+. On the flipside, I got into to Duke with a 1320.</p>
<p>Either way, both places are great institutions.</p>
<p>How many years ago? Are you a URM, athlete or legacy? Your verage 1320 just plain isn't getting in even with a perfect high school GPA.</p>