<p>How many internationally?</p>
<p>I believe taking one half the total admits EA would be a bit unusual for any college. Perhaps the new admissions VP thinks it will help with yield. I, much like JHS, remain a bit skeptical until I see the final numbers.</p>
<p>60 international admits</p>
<p>Thank you,and I am not one of the 60:/ >< Sigh,do they “discriminate”(excuse my word choice) against EA deferrers?..just curious…</p>
<p>The rate is a mortifying horror to me>,<</p>
<p>Sorry to bother you but were there any from Canada?</p>
<p>1 person from Canada</p>
<p>Sorry to bother you again,how many admits are from China’s mainland?</p>
<p>4 from China</p>
<p>but the ones on the site are only the ones that logged into the Chicago’s program…right? So even though there’s only two acceptees from AZ on the site, it means that there could be more depending on if the other ones logged into the “Phoenix Facebook”…correct?</p>
<p>JHS and idad, I’m also skeptical about such a high number of EA admits. Doing some quick speculation, however, reveals that such a high number of EA admits could be a shrewd move by Nondorf & co. from a numbers standpoint. </p>
<p>If Chicago did indeed accept around 1650 early, they can probably expect to enroll around 700 of those 1650 admits (generally around a 40% yield rate for EA admits). This means that about 53% of the incoming class would be early admits. Moreover, this means that Chicago would only need 600-650 more students to fill out the class during the RD round. To get 650 to enroll, Chicago would probably need to send out around 1700 acceptances for the RD round. </p>
<p>What does this mean? </p>
<p>The early accept rate would be about 28% (1647/5855).</p>
<p>The regular decision accept rate would probably be around 14%, if I’m assuming a conservative 15% growth in the RD pool, from about 10K to 11.5K. (1700/11500)</p>
<p>The overall accept rate would be about 19% (3347/17355 total apps). </p>
<p>The overall yield would be around 40% (say the class is about 1330 total, and 3347 were accepted). </p>
<p>Again, this is a pretty conservative estimate. after early apps went up 54% in one year, it might not be crazy to predict that RD apps go up, say, 20-25%. If that’s the case, the RD accept rate would be around 12-13%, and the overall accept rate would be about 18-19%. </p>
<p>Either way, the final stats could be very interesting indeed. If Nondorf did indeed decide to accept a higher number in the EA round, this would radically shift Chicago’s final admissions numbers. In just one year, Chicago would go from about a 27% accept rate and 35% yield to a 19% accept rate and a 40% yield. </p>
<p>Chicago would also “keep up with the joneses” so to speak in demonstrating that there is a striking disparity between the EA accept rate (about 28%) and the RD accept rate (about 14%). I’m not sure whether this is the best route to go (I tend not to like the benefit given to applying early), but it would all of a sudden put Chicago in a completely different ballpark in terms of selectivity.</p>
<p>Thank you,thebandman…that’s not a small number compared to those of EA/ED admits to ivies and hight-tiers.interesting…</p>
<p>i think even the ones that are not logged on are accounted for, spiralcloud</p>
<p>spiralcloud: I believe the way the system works is that you are included in the numbers unless you specifically opt out of the account. That would mean that, even if you haven’t logged on yet, you are still counted.</p>
<p>How many from FL and VA?</p>
<p>56 from FL, 47 from VA</p>
<p>One other note, if this is the path the admissions office follows, I wonder if Nondorf is paving the way to switching to an ED policy, and if Chicago will begin a more regular practice of taking about half the class in the early round.</p>
<p>Again, ED would allow even more manipulation of the numbers. With ED, I’m assuming Chicago could get around 2000 ED apps, accept maybe 650 or so in that round, and then only need to accept around 1700 in the RD round to fill the rest of the class. I’m assuming Chicago would get around 14K RD apps down the road, for a total of roughly 16000 apps overall. This would mean about a 14% overall accept rate, and a 55-60% yield (a class of around 1300-1350 matriculating out of a total of around 2300 accepts).</p>
<p>Cue7: I believe last years yield was about 36%, so perhaps 40% is attainable. Nondorf may be thinking that already having a Chicago acceptance may result in prospects applying to only their mega-reaches. He may hope that most will be rejected and thus end up at Chicago resulting in an increased yield. The flip side is that the increased admission numbers may come from students for whom Chicago is not really a top choice and thus the yield may even fall.</p>
<p>I don’t believe Chicago will go to ED, there is too much criticism of ED for favoring wealthier students. SCEA may be a possibility, however.</p>
<p>idad: given the landscape of admissions today, I’m more inclined to believe your former statement (that many with a Chicago acceptance in hand will only apply RD to their mega-reach schools) rather than your latter assertion. </p>
<p>If I was applying today, I’d almost definitely apply somewhere early (when I applied more than a decade ago, I didn’t apply anywhere early). The RD accept rate at some of Chicago’s immediate peers, places like Columbia and Brown, is ridiculously low now. I think Columbia has about a 7% accept rate RD, and Brown will probably have around a 9% RD accept rate this year. </p>
<p>The simple fact is, just looking at the numbers, taking a higher number early could be a shrewd move for Chicago. The yield rate will probably be high because, lets face it, most of these kids are not getting into Columbia or Yale or Stanford in the RD round - the percentages just don’t support it at all. Accordingly, Chicago will have less of the class to fill during the RD round.</p>
<p>I’m not sure if I approve of the strategy, but it’s intriguing to see how much this strategy could change Chicago’s perceived selectivity in just one year. Dropping the accept rate by 8-9 percentage points and raising yield by around 5 percentage points in just one year is startling.</p>
<p>I third that first assertion -I’m only applying to mega reaches after getting it (Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Columbia)</p>
<p>If the yield increases to 41% from 36% (which isn’t such a big jump from the 38% from two years before- the 36% was somewhat of an anomaly because of the economy) and the RD pool increases by 15%, we’re looking at an 18% total acceptance rate, folks.</p>
<p>I don’t think Chicago will change to ED. It may change to SCEA or have two EA rounds, one REA, the other SCEA, but a change to ED would radically counter Chicago’s stance on admissions for the past decade. (Admittedly, however, the fact that Nondorf is head of the admissions office already radically counters Chicago’s past stance on admissions.) It may happen, but I think that Nondorf would have to be even more aggressive for it to reach fruition. At the moment, I think it would be nice to switch to SCEA. I see a significant amount of people on CC applying to other schools ED, and the admissions office should be (and probably is) aware that we just can’t let that happen if we are going to keep our numbers up. The danger of students using Chicago as an ‘EA safety’ will increase even further if there is such a drastic disparity between EA and RD acceptance rates.</p>