EA, SCEA, ED, and early rolling admissions compatibility

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<p>As a member of the high school class of 2011, I've been trying to understand admissions as well as possible. I'd like for this understanding to include a knowledge of the early application process. Which combinations are students allowed to use in the early round of admissions?</p>

<p>I know that ED and SCEA make all others from the EA-SCEA-ED option pool impossible. However, do they also eliminate the possibility of applying early to a rolling-admissions school? To clarify, I've given a few situations below. Please respond to any that you are certain of.</p>

<p>The schools I'll be using as generic examples are UChicago (EA), Yale (SCEA), Johns Hopkins (ED), and UMich 2009-2010 (rolling)*. Assume that the student is applying early.</p>

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<li>If Allen applies to UChicago, he can't apply to Yale and JHU, but UMich is fine. Is this correct?</li>
<li>If Brenda applies to Yale, then UChicago and JHU are off-limits to her. What about UMich?</li>
<li>If Chuck applies to JHU, then UChicago and Yale are off-limits to him. What about UMich?</li>
<li>If Danielle applies to UMich early, then no single school is off-limits to her. Is this correct?</li>
<li>If I've made any mistakes in my assumptions or have overlooked a scenario, please let me know.</li>
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<p>*According to their admissions website, UMich will actually be switching to an EA system for the high school class of 2011. However, they're the only school I can think of as an example of rolling admissions.</p>

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<p>Allen can apply to JHU and Chuck can apply to UChicago.</p>

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<p>Just read the FAQ on early policies on the websites of the schools you are interested in.</p>

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<p>For example 2: Yale allows UMich early rolling admissions. That’s not a conflict in Yale’s eyes. This is 100% true.</p>

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<p>^^T26E4: do you think that will change now that Umich is classified as EA not rolling according to their website?</p>

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<p>[Early</a> Action FAQ | Application to Yale College | Freshmen | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/eafaq.html#last]Early”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/eafaq.html#last)</p>

<p>So applicants from Michigan only could still apply early, I think.</p>

<p>OP’s overlooked EDII and there are also EA programs (Georgetown?) that don’t allow you to apply ED simultaneously, I think.</p>

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<p>Hmmmm. Learned something new. I didn’t know UM changed from early response to Early Action. My guess would be that Yale is taking it under serious consideration – my guess would be that they not allow a EA UM applicant to also apply Yale SCEA. But I’d wait to hear officially Yale’s stance on this. This was news to me.</p>

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<p>Thank you all for your help. However, I’m a little bit curious about a few answers. From what it sounds like, a student can apply to a single ED school and several EA schools at the same time (see Honesto’s answer in post #2). Is this true? Additionally, I’d like to thank haavain for pointing out EDII. What exactly is it?</p>

<p>T26E4: The news came out very recently. There’s a thread at <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/579283-early-response-early-action.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/579283-early-response-early-action.html&lt;/a&gt; and a UMich page at [Office</a> of Undergraduate Admissions: Early Action](<a href=“http://www.admissions.umich.edu/prospective/applying/earlyresponse.php]Office”>http://www.admissions.umich.edu/prospective/applying/earlyresponse.php).</p>

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<p>By the way, I’ll try to get in touch with Yale’s admissions office if nobody can answer this, but how do they define a public university? UMich’s public funding is only a small portion of its total revenue ([University</a> of Michigan Funding: A Snapshot](<a href=“General Fund Budget Snapshot | U-M Public Affairs”>http://vpcomm.umich.edu/budget/fundingsnapshot/5.html)). Do Yale and Stanford have cutoffs based on funding for how they define public universities? If so, what are they?</p>

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<p>My guess is that UMich’s new EA policy will prohibit SCEAers from applying unless they’re in-state.</p>

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<p>Generally, yes. For example, I applied to Columbia ED and Chicago, Caltech, and UGA EA. However, each school sets its own individual policy and it’s best to check with that school.</p>

<p>EDII is exactly what it sounds like–a second round of ED. EDII applications are generally due around January 1 and decisions go out sometime in February. Most EA/SCEA/EDI programs notify before the EDII deadline, so EDII is compatible with basically all early notification schools–provided you have not gotten in somewhere EDI, of course.</p>

<p>Most schools I’ve seen with EDII are LACs.</p>

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<p>haavain: Thanks for the help. Doesn’t the RD deadline generally come in late December/early January as well, though? What differentiates EDII from RD?</p>

<p>glassesarechic: You’re right. I corresponded with a Yale admissions officer and was told the same thing. As a Michiganite (Michiganian?), I’m allowed to apply EA to UMich and SCEA to Yale. My friend in Ohio can’t do this, as UMich is OOS for him.</p>

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<p>The difference between EDII and RD is basically a) you get your decisions a month or two earlier–RD decisions begin to come out in mid-to-late March–and b) by applying ED you commit to attending the school if you are accepted.</p>

<p>EDII is sort of like a second chance–if you don’t get into your first-choice school EDI/EA you can apply somewhere else EDII and hope you get in. The calculus is similar to the EDI round in that you trade in your choices (by committing to the EDII school) for an increased chance of acceptance in a smaller pool.</p>

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<p>OK, cool. But that would mean that students would have to be allowed to apply elsewhere RD as well, right?</p>

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<p>Yes, with the understanding that if they get in, they must withdraw their RD apps.</p>

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<p>Thanks. Can one school have EDI, EDII, and RD? If so, when would the RD deadline be?</p>

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<p>Yes.</p>

<p>[Swarthmore</a> College | Admissions | Apply to Swarthmore](<a href=“http://www.swarthmore.edu/apply.xml]Swarthmore”>Apply to Swarthmore :: Admissions & Aid :: Swarthmore College)</p>

<p>You can see that Swarthmore has two ED rounds (although they’re not explicitly called EDI and EDII) and a RD round. In this case the EDII and RD rounds have the same deadline.</p>

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<p>Many colleges have ED I, ED II and RD.<br>
My rising seniors are each coming up with plans to apply to a given school ED I, another school ED II, and everything else RD.</p>