<p>6.6 magnitude in Hawaii</p>
<p>Any reports from our MIDM/Friends in the area?</p>
<p>Pretty creepy feeling not knowing who's out there. The Jamz just left Hono three days ago. I tried to get up some web cams after they'd said Hono had been effected as well but none I had been using will come up I guess due to power outages. Hope all is well.</p>
<p>Deepdraft? Where are you at the moment??</p>
<p>Fortunately this time, safe? at home in California... But I'm always ready. This is, after all, known as the "shaky side" of the country. I went through the San Francisco quake back in October '89 and it was quite an experience. I was on the approach to the Bay Bridge on SF side with the Mrs., DD2 and DD3 when it hit. VERY memorable for all of us.</p>
<p>I talked to CW twice yesterday. Their ship was just coming into port when the earthquake hit. First time, he said it was no big deal. The second time I talked to him, he said that the whole ship shook and they thought they were having engine problems. They radioed the tug and that's when they found out about the earthquake. He'll be heading home on the 29th for a few days. Can't wait to see him and hear all the tales.</p>
<p>Glad everyone is safe & sound. Kansasmom, share his stories when he repeats them to you. Had to be strange to feel the ship shudder. Would love to hear what he thought.</p>
<p>DD1, Whew! Now theres a story to tell the Grandchildren. It was a wicked thing to watch on tv so I can't imagine being right there in the middle of it. I think the Jamz is ready for a change of scenery. Could be homesickness. He sounded good when he called from Hong Kong but I could tell, he's missing chicken & dumplings & sweet tea (and girls). :D</p>
<p>Heard from my friend who works on one of the NCL cruise ships in Hawaii, was in Maui and was woken from his nap and was mad about that, but otherwise all was well.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061017/ap_on_re_us/ships_collide%5B/url%5D">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061017/ap_on_re_us/ships_collide</a> </p>
<p>Speaking of dangers at sea. I was wondering how something like that could happen?</p>
<p>Very simple. The reason ships collide is that they get to close to one another..</p>
<p>I'd imagine it isn't like you can just stop a ship of that size if you have miscalculated how close you have come to another ship at anchor. </p>
<p>Paying attention is a pretty darn important thing.</p>
<p>I'm just glad the Jamz was driving. I have nightmares due to the fact the 2ft. long scratch on Dad's truck happened on something much smaller & easy to handle. If he can't drive in Great Neck, well.........</p>
<p>Let me repeat that... I'm just glad the Jamz WASN"T driving. Darn thing wouldn't let me edit my mistake. Pretty funny when I re-read it tho.</p>
<p>Yes KP10sMOM, paying attention IS a pretty darn important thing. No matter what you're doing.. All the way from "making love" to flying an airplane (or in Jamz case, driving Dads truck).. The pilot on this particular ship violated one of the 4 basic rules of piloting.. Do any of you know what they are?</p>
<p>Heck no. My first instinct was to answer that 'he didn't use his turn signal' then I thought better of it. Here's where people like you can tell us what our kids are learning. Seriously, most of us are land-lubber types. I truly don't know. The article was sketchy. KP2001 can't answer this question because it would be cheating. When you explain, please use layman's terms that even I can understand. Speak like your talking to say someone who is 12. :D And I always pay attention when flying a plane DD1. Heh.....</p>
<p>Just returned from a business trip to Honolulu today. It was quite an experience over there. Although the majority of the physical damage was on the big island, Honolulu was shaken by the quake and lost all power, except for emergency power in a few places. Thousands of people stranded at the airport on Sunday, no A/C and 90% humidity. No hotel rooms for them to go back to. They slept on the floors everywhere. Most airlines cancelled all flights back to the mainland. No streetlights, police directing traffic., virtually no restaurants or shops open for food. No elevators working in hotel, had to carry three bags up 25 stories of steps to room! No lights or A/C in rooms all day - very hot and humid and then rain on top of that. No food or drinks at hotel, but did have water for cold shower. Personal flashlight came in very handy. People roaming the streets for any kind of food or drinks..only a few small ABC stores open with lines of people waiting over an hour to get in. No phones or landlines anywhere operable. Verizon was about the only cell phone operator that worked. Nobody could communicate with airlines, hotels, or loved ones. People reverted to talking to other from across their hotel balconies. Power finally came on late Sunday night, what a relief. Next morning, every restaurant in Honolulu was packed with people who probably hadn't had anything to eat for 24 hrs. Monday almost everything was back to normal, but it was very strange experience in paradise for awhile.</p>
<p>Well Jamzmom, here are the four rules of piloting a ship.. in no particular order:
If you are going to fast; slow down
If you are going to slow; speed up
If you are too far to the right; move left
If you are too far to the left; move right</p>
<p>remember the "secrets of the craft" can be breathtaking in their simplicity</p>
<p>I would imagine there are times that piloting can be very mundane and it might be a challenge to maintain attention. Being mindful is a discipline.</p>
<p>parentmma10, What an experience! So glad that you remained safe. 25 flights of stairs with luggage would have killed me for sure. I could have done the hungry thing & the cold shower but the stairs? nope. I'd have died. Welcome back from Shake & Bake Island! Scary to think that it could have been worse.</p>
<p>DD1, ok Mr. Smartie-pants. How did it really happen? Looks like the docked ship was hit head on at a pretty good clip. I assume investigations go on for weeks after an incident like this. Who does the investigations? Would it be in CG hands or Port Authority?</p>
<p>Jamzmom, let's be fair, I don’t know what happened because I wasn’t there and I refuse to speculate based on a poor photograph and sketchy new story..</p>
<p>The NTSB will investigate and publish an accident report. I’m sure the Coast Guard and the port will conduct their own investigations too.
The NTSB report will eventually be available to the public at the their website <a href="http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/M_Acc.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/M_Acc.htm</a> </p>
<p>While you’re at the site you can read reports of other mishaps and maybe come away with a little understand about how these things occur.</p>
<p>I’ve been through a collision and I can truly say it will “ruin your entire day”</p>
<p>KP10sMOM, It’s all about teamwork and FOCUS.. on a ships bridge there are many many distractions that can cause the conning officer to divert focus from the task at hand (the safe piloting of the vessel).. It takes a good, practiced “bridge team” to insure that the conning officer gets the necessary information needed to conn the ship while not distracting him from that primary focus.. </p>
<p>American President Lines use to have us deck officers watch a training video about the crash of Eastern Airlines Flight 401 in the marshes of Florida's Everglades. The video illustrated how important FOCUS and bridge resource and bridge team management are. (cockpit management in their case)</p>
<p>A little excerpt:
The autopilot was supposed to have maintained the altitude of the aircraft at 2000 feet. Unfortunately it did not do so and the aircraft gradually descended.
The crew was so focused on the faulty wheel indicator light that they failed to monitor the functioning of the autopilot. The low altitude warning alarm chimed briefly. The alarm was located at the Flight Engineers area which was behind the co-pilots seat. Unfortunately the Flight engineer was not at his seat. He had gone below the cockpit through a hatch into the nose wheel space to use the visual system to see if the nose wheels were down. Thus no one heard the low altitude alarm.
A glance at one of the three altimeters (altitude indicators) in front of them would have also immediately alerted them that the autopilot was not maintaining the altitude.
When the co-pilot suddenly recognized that there was a problem with the altitude it was too late.
The aircraft crashed nearly twenty miles from the runway.</p>
<p>Co-pilot: We did something to the altitude
Captain: What?
Co-pilot: We're still at two thousand right?
Captain: Hey, what's happening here?
The next sound ATC hears is a click..</p>
<p>Above the ladder to the bridge on the MV MANOA was a Gary Larsen cartoon. In the cartoon two airline pilots are looking out the cockpit window at a mountain goat.. One is saying to the other “Say…., what’s a mountain goat doing way up here in this cloud bank!!!!!!! ” A hand written caption under the cartoon reminded all who saw it to “Keep your focus forward and never let your guard down.. SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY”</p>
<p>To read the whole sad story about Eastern Flight 401 go to <a href="http://www.freshgasflow.com/flight401.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.freshgasflow.com/flight401.htm</a></p>
<p>Yea, I really felt sorry for those stranded at our airports & especially folks in high rises. It seems hotels & airports should have some provisions for the guests so folks don't have to go 24+ hours with no food or beverages in the event of an extended power outage (tho to be fair, Honolulu has NEVER had such an extended power outage in the nearly 50 years I'm aware of). I believe the governor & her cabinet are working feverishly to be sure things are better for future emergencies.
I think I'd have to go VERY slowly with LOTS of rests to get to a 25th floor, especially with luggage. When we moved our S into his 7th floor dorm room, he & my hubby & D raced up the stairs there carrying some of his stuff while I waited patiently in line for the elevator to lug the remainder.
It is a miracle no injuries or deaths were caused by the earthquake & I'm very glad no tidal wave was generated.</p>