east asian languages budget short (chinese, korean, japanese)

<p>just got this email. this is really stupid, especially for all students not in L&S.</p>

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<p>To all currently enrolled language students:</p>

<p>Due to the budget situation, EALC is having to cut Chinese, Japanese, and Korean courses by over 50%. This means that not everyone currently enrolled will be able to enroll in the Fall semester. We will not be able to accommodate students from other Colleges and Schools (outside of Letters and Sciences) in our courses. We recognize that many of your need our courses to complete minor or major requirements, and we sincerely apologize to those of you who will need to change your plans.</p>

<p>We will continue to accept students from all colleges in our summer courses. This coming summer we are offering Chinese 1, Chinese 10, Japanese 1, Japanese 10, Japanese 100, Korean 1, and Korean 10.</p>

<p>We continue to look for alternative funding sources, but we wanted to be honest with you about the situation as it currently stands.</p>

<p>Yours,</p>

<p>Alan Tansman
Chair, EALC</p>

<p>I know Tibet is considered to be South Asian over here, but I know EALC somehow got control of Tibetan. Does this affect Tibetan too?</p>

<p>East</a> Asian Languages and Cultures</p>

<p>tibetan is listed on the site above, so it is in the ealc department, but from the letter it seems to me that it will not be affected. perhaps there is not as much of a demand for tibetan language courses as compared to korean, chinese, and japanese.</p>

<p>wow. that just makes me even more happy im not at cal...that just plain blows</p>

<p>japanese is def one of my passions, and if my school told me they were cutting classes id be devastated...i wouldnt even look at schools that didnt have a good japanese program and year-long study abroad</p>

<p>if you're in L&S you are in a way unaffected</p>

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wow. that just makes me even more happy im not at cal...that just plain blows

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<p>Cal has lots of great things. Budget cuts will affect all UCs, not just Berkeley. I don't regret at all choosing Cal bioe over UCSD bioe either when I had to make the decision 3 years ago.</p>

<p>BlueSkyPinkCloud,</p>

<p>As unlimitedx pointed out, all UCs will likely suffer a similar fate. As far as year-long study abroad goes, it doesn't matter which UC you attend as EAP is system-wide.</p>

<p>yea..obvs the budget cuts will affect every campus, and i dont mind where anyone goes, its their choice and i respect that..i just fit here better..and i was talking about campuses other uc as far as study abroad went, i know eap is like a mass app spanning all campuses..i was looking at campuses outside of the uc system...and lastly, out of everything i doubt japanese will be getting cut, but, of course i cant make that assumption...it just all around is disappointing how our cali budget cuts continue to harm our public education and make it harder for people to get a good, decent priced fulfilling education</p>

<p>BlueSkyPinkCloud,</p>

<p>Japanese will probably never be cut completely. However, it may become more impacted than it is now. It will not likely affect the quality of instruction as much as it will mean that people will have to fight a bit harder to get the classes.</p>

<p><em>sigh</em>..why does everyone want to bicker about everything..its like theres this unbidden animosity towards anyone new...but im not trying to say that it will be cut completely, im just saying that the same thing is not likely to happen..and, as for quality of instruction, im more talking the public high schools and elementary schools that are being greatly impacted, where large percentages of teachers are in danger of being fired because the schools cannot afford all their teachers anymore</p>

<p>I don't really see how me just saying that the courses will probably become impacted at UCs qualifies as "bickering." </p>

<p>As for the quality of public secondary schools, I agree. I did not realize previously that you were referring to secondary schools, however. My apologies if you felt that I was taking a quarrelsome tone, as I was not. I was merely expanding upon the topic you had brought up.</p>

<p>yea i kno im sorry its late and ive been studying for my midterms all week...i dont doubt i am unclear and cranky, lol...i suppose i shouldnt use cc as a procrastination tool, i think i was generalizing all of cc...but yea, my bad</p>

<p>I was so crushed when I got this email. Last year, it seemed that the Japanese department was short on funds and waitlisted everyone except for Japanese majors. But I think they managed to let everyone in. </p>

<p>I was in the College of Engineering and just switched out about one a week or so ago. I was given the choice between L&S and CNR and chose CNR so seeing this message really made me wanna tear a chair apart or something.</p>

<p>Hopefully they can find some rich benefactors to fund the program. My guess is, before long, they will. All that money for that fancy new library and they are going to gut the East Asian Languages program? I can't imagine that will be the final result of all of this.</p>

<p>Yeah, I was thinking the same thing with the library.</p>

<p>Joked that the library was a drain on the program's budget but the construction was financed by private contributions (totaling $46.4 million - 10.16.2007</a> - New C.V. Starr East Asian Library to be dedicated at UC Berkeley)</p>

<p>I hope we do get some more funding so that we don't get a new building but half the number of students taking an East Asian language. :)</p>

<p>I hate to be cynical. But what is the best way to motivate funding, either from the university or through private donations? Tell as many people as you can about the problem. E-mailing everyone on your email list that you are cancelling their class, that might be a good strategy. ;-)</p>

<p>"if you're in L&S you are in a way unaffected"</p>

<p>Can anyone expand on how one in L&S in unaffected? My OOS daughter has two more days to decide on LAC (Claremont) vs Berkeley. Last night, she decided on Berkeley after much hand-wringing, and I hate to start waving any red flags to worry her at this late hour. She loves the people and the sense of pride you all seem to have in this great school.
She was planning on starting Chinese first semester, but she has no idea of her eventual major Is it just a matter of having the "impacted" classes phenomenon spread into the humanities sectors? From what I read here on CC, the humanities have not been too "impacted" to date wheras the engineering and science majors have been for a long time. For us, there is no difference in cost between the LACand OOS Berkeley. Thanks.</p>

<p>i am not sure if other classes will be affected by the budget cuts, but as for the east asian language classes, yes they will be. </p>

<p>the idea that anyone in L&S will be unaffected by the asian language class cuts is simply that: the department has ruled that anyone outside of L&S (ie. CNR, CoE, COC, CED, etc...) will not be able to enroll in the classes due to projected decreased class sizes for fall 2008. if your daughter is coming in as a freshman to the L&S, she should not have a problem signing up for the chinese class and getting in. if she is in a different college, it sounds like it's tough luck. hope this helps.</p>

<p>This is a totally ridiculous policy.</p>

<p>Here's more info for those who are interested:</p>

<p>[url=<a href="http://savekoreanstudies.blogspot.com/%5DSave"&gt;http://savekoreanstudies.blogspot.com/]Save&lt;/a> Korean Studies at Berkeley<a href="not%20only%20for%20Korean%20studies%20but%20also%20the%20East%20Asian%20Languages%20in%20general">/url</a></p>