Eastman vs Northwestern vs NYU vs Cal (Flute)

<p>@lemonspice I did not formally get in, but I assumed from the context of the conversation with the woodwind department chair that I would be studying with him…</p>

<p>@bassdad
very intersting…and true! to be honest, i don’t think I knew about NU before this year…so can’t blame my friends i guess…well again I never really heard of UPenn or Cornell or Dartmouth either…</p>

<p>We were told when we visited NYU/Steinhardt that nobody does a double degree there and at Stern. But NYU has a BA in economics program within CAS. I have no idea of its reputation or faculty.</p>

<p>Hey. Congrats on your acceptances. I am an Eastman student right now, so I can give you some input on the school itself, as well as an outsider’s (I am a violist) view on the flute studio. At Eastman, you are probably going to come out with a better set of tools (not just technical skills on your instrument) to be successful in the music world. The theory department here is widely regarded (at least people say so) as the best theory department in the country, and the same can be said about the musicology department. Its a very busy life, and you are going to have a lot of work to do both for your teacher, and for your theory classes and humanities requirement. </p>

<p>Now, as for the Flute Studio:
Every single Flute Player here absolutely adores Professor Boyd. No one has ever said anything that could be seen as implying anything negative. I haven’t had the chance to work with her at all, but next spring I am planning on playing the Debussy Harp Trio (viola/harp/flute), and I look forward to the chance to have a coaching with her. 1 year from now I would be able to give you a 1st hand opinion of her. </p>

<p>Good luck making your decision. If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to shoot me a PM. I could also get you in touch with a good friend of mine studying trombone at NU if you have any questions about the school. </p>

<p>Congrats</p>

<p>@lukeg3891 Yes! I have heard about the great reputation from various people about the theory department. When you said it’s very busy, would you also say that a dual degree with UofR is very hard to do?</p>

<p>And about Bonnie, the lesson I had with her was a very good experience and was probably one of the best ones I’ve had on my audition tours. After the lesson I really felt the difference of what a great teacher (like Boyd) makes compared to a mediocre one.</p>

<p>I remember when I toured Eastman during the summer, the tour guide said that “the flutes here are very intense, wink” I never really understood that… =D</p>

<p>The dual degree program is going to be pretty intense. Its doable though. The one thing that people tend to complain about is that during Jury week, when Eastman doesn’t have classes, people taking classes at U of R still have to go over there. I don’t know what your guide meant by “intense”. I don’t know if intense is the right word. Driven may be better. Definitely a great studio, definitely one of the best at the school.</p>

<p>Yeah that’s probably what he meant…he was funny lol</p>

<p>I think the workload itself would not be so hard for me, since I can balance 3 hours of practicing with 5 ap classes with still too much time not doing anything lol, but I’m just worried about the logistics in the Eastman+UofR program, since
it snows
the two campuses are so far apart
the classes are not designed for synchronization between the schools (unlike NU, where I assume music classes and academic classes alike would occupy different blocks of time that would allow for sufficient time in between)</p>

<p>Thank you again to everyone that gave advices.</p>

<p>I think the problem at Eastman comes from conflicts with required classes. You will be required to play in either the wind symphony or the orchestra every semester. Rehearsals are 2 hours a day M, W, F. My son found that there were either required classes or prereqs that were only offered during orchestra rehearsal. He had no options. And I think you will find that you are busier than you think. With classes, practice, lessons, orchestra, chamber rehearsals, and studio class, my son found there were days he would leave his room at 8:00 AM and not return until 10 PM. Then he would do homework. He took a class each semester on River Campus and loved doing that, but he found a second degree out of the question. He couldn’t even manage a minor because of the orchestra conflict issue.</p>

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<li>I’d ask music school staff/students about you concern on practice facilities. They are building a $90 million-dollar facility but I am not sure if it will be opened in 2012 or 2013.</li>
<li>I wouldn’t worry too much about what Asians know. I grew up in Hong Kong and I know many Asians/Chinese, especially the immigrants, know very little about schools in America. The funny thing is they often think they know quite a bit and are obssessed about certain schools. Somehow NYU is well-known among middle-class Asians probably because, believe it or not, everyone knows New York; NYC also has the largest number of immigrants so that helps. Many Chinese never heard of Dartmouth, Cornell, Duke…names that sound more difficult to pronounce or remember. For those in the knows, NU is a notch above NYU-CAS</li>
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<p>Northwestern is very highly regarded in the orchestral brass world. There is a pedagogical school of thought called the “Chicago School” that grew from the ideas of Arnold Jacobs, Vincent Cichowicz, et al at Northwestern in the mid to late 20th century. More recently, two BM (i.e., undergrad) students of trumpet professors Barbara Butler and Charles Geyer won spots in the NY Philharmonic.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t be too concerned. ;)</p>

<p>@SteveC Those are some really interesting points you have and completely broadened my view! thank you</p>

<p>@Sam Lee ahha that’s probably true about the easier to pronounce thing </p>

<p>@Shennie thank you for your information about your son. I would love to go to Eastman for its prestigious and intensive program in music; but i’m afriad given my choices and my desire for double major, it would be hard to give up NU</p>