<p>guys it’s not just what you eat. Your metabolism slows down as you get older. You can’t help this.</p>
<p>Yeah it’s good to start healthy habits but some people beat the crap out of themselves for eating a slice of cake at a party. “Oh my god, I ate a slice of cake and I’ve been eating healthy for the past three months and now I’m going to be so faaaaat!” If you eat lots of veggies, fruits, and GOOD grains (not Wonderbread and pasta!) it’s alright to treat yourself once in a while.</p>
<p>I, personally, love baking. I make cookies, cakes, and what-have-you all the time. I don’t even really like to eat the end result, I just like making it. Solution to keep that crap out of the house so no one is tempted to pig out? Share 
Everyone gets more popular when they have sugary goods on hand.</p>
<p>Avoiding fat gain isn’t about eating “healthy.” You just need to watch how much you eat. It’s ridiculous how misguided people are about this.</p>
<p>Which is easier when you eat healthy. Ergo, you can eat a two pound bag of Skittles for the day, not exceed your daily calorie goal, and lose weight but you will still be hungry and feel like ****.</p>
<p>Muscle7, I like your posts because you seem to be well informed but don’t be conceited. I congratulate you on your weight loss and everything, but talking down to people because you did one method and that worked for you so it must be THE WAY is a bit rude. Fad diets are stupid, ‘cleanses’ are stupid, working out with tiny rubber weights so you don’t ‘bulk up’ is stupid; eating healthy is most definitely not stupid. It’s not a guarantee of weight loss, but it makes it much easier.</p>
<p>weight loss? Most of the year I’m trying to gain weight. Although right now I’m on the tail end of a cut.</p>
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<p>You can still easily gain weight eating too much healthy food. That’s why it boils down to how much and not what. I’m not trying to act conceited; I just have no idea how the general public is so uneducated on something that’s such a big issue.</p>
<p>^From some of his posts, I get the feeling he’s a fan of the “dirty bulk.”</p>
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<p>Not really. When you’ve done as many cuts as I have you try to avoid gaining any fat. I avoid sugar like a plague when I’m in a caloric surplus. But avoiding saturated fat, etc. is just stupid. And for someone trying to maintain their weight, sugar intake isn’t a big deal if they’re at maintenance cals.</p>
<p>But avoiding fat on a bulk is basically just limiting your surplus. Doesn’t have that much to do with what you eat, although sugar should be avoided most of the time.</p>
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<p>Obviously it boils down to calories. What I’m saying is you can have a handful of junk food and make 200 cals or you can have a gigantic salad and make 200 cals. One of these will fill you up for a good long time and one will have you reaching for something else in 10 minutes. They have the same overall effect on your weight but one is easier to maintain as part of a fitness plan, ergo better for most people to eat more fruits and veggies overall then eat crap and count every single M&M and gram of pizza.</p>
<p>"Not really. When you’ve done as many cuts as I have you try to avoid gaining any fat. I avoid sugar like a plague when I’m in a caloric surplus. But avoiding saturated fat, etc. is just stupid. And for someone trying to maintain their weight, sugar intake isn’t a big deal if they’re at maintenance cals.</p>
<p>But avoiding fat on a bulk is more about how big your surplus is than what you eat. Again, it’s a calorie thing."</p>
<p>So basically, you’d eat KFC (sat fat/protein) assuming it’s within your calorie budget but not white bread/rice/pasta (simple carbs)? That’s like half a diet…Anyway, to each his own. Whatever works.</p>
<p>Mentioning salads is pretty pointless since they have almost no calories (and they don’t fill up ****), unless you’re adding stuff like chicken and salad dressing. And when you’re adding salad dressing, that’s pretty comparable to the junk food that you’re mentioning.</p>
<p>If you have a healthy diet, you aren’t centering it around salad. Whether you ate that salad or not makes almost zero difference. You have to get your calories from somewhere and it sure as hell won’t come from the salad.</p>
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<p>I said I avoid sugar. Those three have GIs in the 50s/60s, which I consider more moderate.</p>
<p>^You must have damn good genetics if you’re building muscle/burning fat on the kind of diet you advocate…</p>
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<p>I don’t see why you’d say that (although I am a mesomorph). If you’re in a low surplus, avoid too much suguar, get enough protein/EFAs/vitamins, and lift weights, you aren’t going to gain a lot of fat during a bulk. It doesn’t matter if you eat fried chicken or not. Although I’m not much of a KFC guy.</p>
<p>Seriously, limiting your diet to chicken breast, tuna, oats, etc. is a waste. I actually used to do that. People don’t realize that these healthy food theories have never actually been proven.</p>
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<p>Not really… building muscle you need protein/EFAs/vitamins. To avoid fat gain you need to avoid sugar and limit surplus.</p>
<p>To shed fat you need to eat basically the same, just less of it. There is no reason why you should avoid stuff like saturated fat. If you want, I’ll post a study done where two groups had either high or low sat. fat intake and both lost the same amount of fat.</p>
<p>Muscle do you gain weight for sports?</p>
<p>This is kinda related to eating healthy in college so…
HELP! I DON’T LIKE SALAD!!!
It seems like everyone has mentioned eating a small salad for lunch to stay on the healthy side or whatever, but I really really really don’t like it. What can I eat that will help keep me healthy? (foods please…I understand the importance of portion control)</p>
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<p>Nah; there aren’t too many sports where it’d help. I do it for 2 reasons… 1) I’ve always been very physical. I’m a bit of a masochist with regard to pushing myself physically and proving myself. It’s also something that I can set my mind to; make goals, get better on a regular basis, etc. and 2) I’m a perfectionist about my appearance.</p>
<p>Everyone has a hobby… this is mine.</p>
<p>And on 2nd thought, MissSilvestris might be right. Counting calories is probably a stretch for most people. With that in mind, avoiding caloric dense foods might be the best option for people strictly worried about gaining fat.</p>
<p>if you read the 1st post on page 3 [ my post ], itll clear it up… Muscle7 is right lol you dont have to confine yourself to those strict azz diets … sure its good to eat healthy but you dont have to force yourself to ONLY eat those foods. its ok to get fat in your diet but exercise is key. as i said in the other post, as a football and track guy i am always moving and also lifting weights so i eat a LOT but i also portion it out … </p>
<p>EXERCISE !!! aiight im not tryna be conceited or nothin lol just proving a point but im 5’11 170, and im REAL defined [ you can check my facebook for proof ] nah im jokin bout that please dont, but honestly i eat like crazy im always eating and while i do eat healthy i also do eat things that people would consider unhealthy… yet im still fast and cut</p>
<p>and nj<em>azn</em>premed about this ^You must have damn good genetics if you’re building muscle/burning fat on the kind of diet you advocate…</p>
<p>true some of its genetics but its also about the way you live your life if you stay active, and if part of what having fun for you is going out and playing sports / lifting weight, youll start to notice that you really dont have to go crazy about what you eat. if having fun for you is sittin around all day… going on the computer, playing xbox, walking around then yeah maybe you gota reconsider lol</p>
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<p>You know, some things people are expected to know so I don’t state them. YES DRESSINGS HAVE MAJOR CALORIES. YES IT IS BAD. I assume people aren’t being stupid and eating only spinach with anemic carrot shavings and are actually making a meal by adding some protein or carbs with it. And it makes a difference whether you ate it or not. It fills you up so you aren’t raiding your fridge, like I said fifty times. People get hungry. Most people, with the exception of people with eating disorders, dislike this and go eat something. </p>
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Except that current research points to sat fats having a very negative effect on your long-term health if eaten willy-nilly. But I suppose not dying from crap nutrition means nothing as long as you keep your calories in check and lose fat. This is an ‘eat healthy’ thread, not ‘how much can I eat and still lose weight?’ thread. Building muscle and losing fat are components of health, but not the majority or sum of health.</p>
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<p>That was my point entirely. You can always work up to weird cutting/bulking diets if that’s your thing, but advocating something that radical and difficult for someone who just wants to lose a few is not going to work out. It’s like recommending a ketogenic diet to someone who eats pizza and burgers regularly; it’ll just end in disaster :(</p>
<p>I’m going to assume that those studies are BS (not criticizing you here). Saturated fat is a necessary macronutrient and recent research points toward the opposite of what you’ve said. I’m guessing that they studied very extreme cases, but post them and I’ll look at them anyway.</p>
<p>And it’s a lot different than recommending keto. The reason I said what I did is because you can still gain weight eating healthy. And secondly because I’ve deprived myself of foods I’ve liked in the past, thinking it actually made a difference. You don’t even need to count calories, just get good enough at ballparking it (which I can do, but I’ve been at this for years). That’s the logic behind portion control diets like weight-watchers, etc. You’ll be over some days and under on others.</p>