<p>I am typing this message from a house just past big springs and watkins. Wonderful how you assume i dont know Riverside. </p>
<p>What prestige corner do i have. I am stating that an accounting career does not require a degree from UCLA or USC. My number 1 choice is cal state Fullerton. I am attending two community colleges. I work a full time job. I have a self sustaining business with a secondary one on the way. I work hard. And you call me a prestige whore?</p>
<p>I never mentioned wealth in riverside. I said they do not have offices there, which they dont. I have Seen every nook and cranny of riverside, unless i have missed something. I was a driver for a company, i know the city in and out, along with the likes of every city from riverside out to temecula. When houses were 350k in riverside, houses were not 800k in the pasadena/la area. Rather prices ranged from 280-500k for a decent house from cities such as temple city down to 600k in cities such as la canada. Recent house spikes no longer put houses at 350k either, do they? Actually the house i am in right now sold for 150k just 6 years ago and was bought in 2005 for 556k. If you area going to make a senseless point, at least make it current for both sides, and correct.</p>
<p>And you seem to disguard the fact that you are living in a cookie cutter home while houses such as those closer to los angeles have character and history, preferable by many, not by some. And it is a rare few that enjoy and 1.5 to 2.5 hour drive from riverside to the oc or la. I drive from Mira Loma to Riverside every other morning and i can see the traffic sitting at a stand still on the 60, one can only imagine the 91.</p>
<p>You seem to make a lot of assumptions, including a ridiculous starting salary of 70k to go along with the rest of your ignorant statements. Due to my anonymity on this board, you seem to derive some pretty interesting conclusions that one would make if they actually knew the person. Do you know me?</p>
<p>I wonder why the students at UCR that are in their accounting society enjoy visits from orange county and los angeles offices rather than those from within riverside. Questionable isn't. But how would the likes of me know.</p>
<p>And morgan stanley offers wealth management, private banking and other rather casual business services, wealth is every where as you said. Considering that, i would assume that they would have one in every major city and near larger suburbs.</p>
<p>you seem to be so offended and your response is that i am a prestige whore. We shall take a look at your previous statement about 4000 sq ft houses, which seems to be quite extravagant compared to houses which range in the 1500-2000 sq foot range for the craftsman homes that dot the major arteries of south pasadena. Quality of quantity is a popular phrase i believe</p>
<p>HEHEHEHE. I just like to see you get flustered. It makes my day. =). Good for you, i'm the director of marketing, business development, and vp of the west coast division at a not for profit company with a substantial market share and interning this summer at a fortune 500 while also running three small businesses. But we're not here to talk about ourselves are we? lol.... All the while maintaining a 3.85 gpa as an honors student with 15+units/sem. But good for me and good for you. My my, you enjoy talking about yourself. Please get ticked off, its really funny.</p>
<p>Break out the ruler, cause its a dick measuring contest</p>
<p>how is this a dick measuring contest? You decide to stupidly assume you know me. If you can do all those things great, congrats. Working at the Sierra Club and getting an internship is more than i have done, rather i work full time at a fortune 500 but do not have any volunteer work.</p>
<p>I never posted these things as a comparison, you called me a prestige whore, i showed to you i am not. But from posts in other threads, i can understand that your reading abilities are lack luster.</p>
<p>JPNguyen what are the names of your three businesses? Link me to the websites of the companies. How is the VC funding going? When's the IPO going to be on any of them ? </p>
<p>Basically any proof that shows you run any business besides- I don't know, buying water bottles from Costco's and re-selling them for a dollar each.</p>
<p>themk99: lol, where did you come from? IPOs are old news unless you're sure its going to be a 100million dollar offering. As for VC funding, there isn't going to be any. Its small businesses, not a startup with potential. I define a small business as a viable business that creates revenues/profits. And a startup as something that has potential for rapid expansion.The only start up with potential for funding is the not for profit that i'm involved in. But we feel that at a later stage, funding would be adequate. Since we must first develop traction(by changing into a for profit company) instead of gaining market share. There is currently very little revenue coming in but we're rapidly capturing the market. Its a web2.0 company so the services are basically free at the moment with fixed assets coming in from sponsoring companies. The fixed assets support our database and product or service so to speak. We also receive assets to help our support team by having a 24hour voip/chat system. We're a 6 man team with 19 or 20 staff members. We hire everyday so I'm not too sure how many people we have on the list. I manage approximately 6 staff members(probably a couple new hires today) and we provide our services all throughout the united states with plans for expansion to canada and the UK. i'm being vague because its what I'm supposed to do when talking to other business majors. </p>
<p>but I can tell you that delegating work is key to almost everything. Developing the strategic plans and then transferring it to the appropiate person for tactical execution is basic business. Well basic leadership.</p>
<p>I rather not give you links because you're very hostile, how do I know if you're not going to go around and talk trash about my companies?</p>
<p>I was just messing around with you guys. =). Lol... geez calm down</p>
<p>nor am i comfortable with the fact that you are claiming to be a small business, yet you are hiring everyday. You are the companies VP, head of marketing and business development, yet you dont know the number of employees the company has on pay roll?</p>
<p>Since our employees are not paid, why should i have to keep track? In addition, isn't it the finance/hr's responsibility to know many people we have? Why should I be bothered with crunching numbers for payroll? My job is to market, build a sustainable division(interviewing and choosing the correct people, evangelists, but its not my absolute responsibility, we have two coo's that handle hiring/firing), and make sure my immediate staff is handling jobs that I hand to them. All of the company is voluntarily funded by both companies that support our mission and individuals that support our mission. However, we do provide free services to our staff that make it intriguing to work for us. Some individuals put in an hour a day, some two hours, some 8 hours every saturday and sunday. Sometimes creating a business to change the world is in itself enough to intrigue individuals to participate. The money shouldn't even be thought of in a startup, money is nothing more than the bi-product of a great company.</p>
<p>List of executive positions:
CEO: Customer relations, political figurehead of the company. Representative to other businesses. (Co-founder)
COO1: VP of East coast division. HR executive. Web designer (Stock options)
COO2: VP of Central division. HR executive. Product development (Stock options)
Me: VP of West coast division. Director of marketing. Executive of Business development(ie develop ideas to help expand our company) (Stock options)
CTO1: Programmer for lead service/product development (Co-founder)
CTO2: Programmer for customer service product development (Co-founder)
+ 16 staff members that promote our product and service our consumers.</p>
<p>You can think money all you want. But I figure, if I can build a great company, the money will just roll in in the form of a bi-product.</p>
<p>How many web2.0 startups do you know that aren't in the red? Hell we didn't even pay the $10 for our domain name. To this day, this company has been nothing more than time. Not one penny has been put out by the founders/executives/staff. We do not ask for donations and do not accept any. Instead, we trade services with companies to acquire fixed assets that we need. The company is 6 months old and we're gearing up to make a transition from only capturing market share to creating revenue and maximizing profit.</p>
<p>Incase you're wondering how people are paid. The executives receive stock options and the co-founders already own a portion of the company.</p>
<p>I like talking about this, it gives me practice if and when we decide to seek funding.</p>
<p>TheMK99: Read the previous post and you'll understand why we hire everyday. But it all boils down to our community of consumers. We have evangelists that join our team and help promote the company without charging us. Although, we do intend to pay our staff when time permits(in the future). The current perks such as access to additional private services and givaways from sponsoring companies make our staff more than happy.</p>
<p>You can argue with me all you want. But my insiders at TCA mentioned a little visit by a special someone on this board. LOL =) </p>
<p>I actually enjoy a good debate. Its fun, educational, and extremely fruitful for learning in a short span of time.</p>
<ol>
<li>So in essence your business is run by bartering</li>
<li>You employ slaves</li>
<li>The operating officers are doing the hiring</li>
<li>You have started as a web 2.0 not for profit, which i admit i have never heard of before, and you wish to become a for profit...have fun dealing with regulations and conversions</li>
<li>what the hell do you mean by fixed assets? </li>
<li>You are hiring everyday, still questionable</li>
</ol>
<p>"you are speaking gibberish, literally."
Before I sleep, I'll answer your questions. We live in a dog-eat-dog world. A startup has to protect itself. I can't tell you all the details of the company over the internet. Why? Well there are millions if not billions of potential readers. In addition, if you would exacerbate your studies, you'd understand that an entrepreneur or individual involved with a startup cannot let ideas leak. We aren't microsoft, we aren't oracle, we can't say we're going to launch something in 6 months and not be worried about competition. We're a startup, we wake up everyday worried about competition. </p>
<ol>
<li><p>So in essence your business is run by bartering.
Yes at the current moment. Its a way of testing the market without paying for it. We aren't idiots that purchase $10,000 research from Juniper for a 50 page business plan. We just do it.</p></li>
<li><p>You employ slaves.
No, they request to work for us. A slave is forced to do something he/she doesn't want to do. We go over the requirements of a staff position and the rewards. We don't build up hype by saying they are going to receive 50k salaries in two years. They all understand that they may not even be paid and that the main reward of the position is giving back to the community which they are members of.</p></li>
<li><p>The operating officers are doing the hiring.
Yes, its a startup... Do you think you could hire a 150k a year executive with 5 years of fortune 500 experience? Geez, I thought you had some brains. What do you think bill gates and paul allen were doing when they started microsoft? Hiring, firing, pitching, programming, financing, marketing... Com'on man, this is the real world, we don't have 10 million to blow on a company and we certainly don't have 20 million to blow on a 150,000 sq foot skyscraper for our executives. Wake up from the theory in textbooks and walk outside.</p></li>
<li><p>You have started as a web 2.0 not for profit, which i admit i have never heard of before, and you wish to become a for profit...have fun dealing with regulations and conversions.
Ha, its a not for profit because we haven't generated profits..... LOL... Its registered as an s-corporation if that answers your questions. If we aren't generating profits, why would we call it a for profit business? In addition, it doesn't have a for profit business model. So why would we call it a for profit business? Services are free to use by the public. </p></li>
<li><p>what the hell do you mean by fixed assets?
It is a term to hide the details of the company. You aren't an SEC accredited investor and you aren't the IRS, so I don't have to answer to you. And I only have to respond to the IRS. Learning about the assets will help give away the company. Don't probe me for intellectual property ideas. Ask some serious questions, not ridiculous ones.</p></li>
<li><p>You are hiring everyday, still questionable.
How can it be? When people are asking us to be hired. We simply advertise "Staff needed" Apply here on the website.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>If you'd like to learn about startups, I recommend you reading <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com%5B/url%5D">www.techcrunch.com</a>. From your questions, I get the feeling that you aren't very well versed in the investor financing of a company as with many business students. Its a field that not too many understand or even know about.</p>
<p>so your bragging about having a great position at a company with no profits. with all the titles and stock you might have, you currently are making less than someone who works in McDonalds. Congratulations!</p>
<p>and since when do people flock to jobs where you don't get paid? lol..</p>
<p>hey JP would you mind talking about the other 2 companies you are part of....im just curious and if possible PM the website address of your web 2.0 site and other companies websites since the other person is too harsh....could you also let me know which fortune 500 you work for? since this site anonymous, this shouldnt be a problem right???</p>
<p>i just want to see whats really up...is it just a myspace page with the people you hire added on your friends list? and executives as top 8 members?</p>
<p>after all i've read i still cant get a grasp on what these companies actually do...cause all of it is about as clear as mud....reading through all the jazzed up words it doesnt sound like much of anything and im sure you know that adcoms read right through all of this mumbo jumbo and say "this dude aint done *****....</p>
<p>please dont try to question my intellectual capabilities cause i will just ignore it, but i genuinenly want to take a look at a website that might be able to display products, effectively expalin overview of business, etc.....</p>
<p>if you indeed decide to PM to me the websites or actually tell us what it is your 3 companies do i will be very impressed with your ability to facilitate such task....if you dont, its cool... no problem..it will just prove a point...</p>
<p>maybe its just a "friendster" page.......thats cool too</p>
<p>i just like to clarify that a company is not for profit if it is purely a non profit, in that it will not be providing a profit for the corporation, nor will the owners/employees of the corporation have a divided share of stock. You cannot confuse the two and should have known this first hand as the IRS applications would have been significantly different. </p>
<p>Nor does an SEC accredited investor have anything to do with anything. Given my anonymity on this site, i could very well have enough money to be accredited. Yet, even if i was, i see no alternative investments that would coincide with the "fixed assets" that i asked about earlier. Please elaborate</p>
<p>Please further explain, we are all confused. I buy/sell domains/websites, an at home job after started after </p>
<ol>
<li>Short stint at a web host service in San Bernardino</li>
<li>Coworkers son showed me some work he had done for the Mcdonalds website after graduating from Purdue</li>
</ol>
<p>This all got me interested and has led me to what i do today. I handle growth (website traffic) and monetary issues (adsense etc). My old roommate is a for hire web design consultant helping me with projects and selling his services</p>
<p>Okay, so...getting back to the topic...<em>AHEM</em></p>
<p>The difference between UCLA and Cal for the so-called big four seems to be minimal in my experience. </p>
<p>People on CC.com love to trumpet small differences, statistical anomalies, and how their school has this fantastic-- yet impossible to prove-- edge on the other.</p>
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<p>Stuff like this, I mean. Where's the proof that UCLA is just "remaining stagnant?" I don't see any. Nor was any offered.</p>
<p>Then again, I also don't see proof that it isn't.</p>
<p>Hmm...</p>
<p>In the long run, the difference is likely to be minimal between the two, and the OP should do himself a favor and attend the school that he thinks he'll enjoy the most. If this were the difference between UCLA and Stanford, I'd say that it's an easy sell. UCLA and Berkeley? Worry about the intangibles first. It won't make a lick of difference if PWC or Deloitte prefers Cal if you do miserably there.</p>