<p>hey guys, i was just wondering how great of ECs i would need to get into like UCSD, UCD, etc (those middle-high UCs)</p>
<p>so far i've got sports, then i'm gonna do some medical-related ECs
i have a few clubs, but i don't think that matters
the point is most of my awards were in like middle school, like i've won state awards</p>
<p>i'm concerned b/c i see all of these lists of ECs w/ a ton of stuff, and ppl say they may be rejected, so i was wondering what imput u guys have on this</p>
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<p>In my opinion, for the middle tier uc's your ec do not have to be superb. Activeness in a few clubs and some community service should do, provided your gpa and sats are on par with their respective averages. I've seen people get in without any leadership roles in clubs.</p>
<p>^^ agreed.</p>
<p>so by middle UCs, u mean like davis and maybe SD?</p>
<p>Davis for sure, possibly Irvine and Santa Barbara as well. However, SD might be considered a low top-tier UC. The most widely known UC's are Berkeley and LA of course, but some consider SD as closer in resemblance to those than to the others.</p>
<p>The logic for my reasoning is someone subjective, but its based on my encounters with a few students who pick SD over Irvine even though they reside a lot closer to the latter. Obviously, there is a name that comes with SD. But still, in selectivity I don't think it's as harsh as its two superiors, so yeah I don't think you have to be overly impressive for your EC's. A 3.7-4.0 UCGPA and 1850-1950 SAT score should suffice, I believe, with the addition of a few club participation and community service.</p>
<p>Also, I think SD's graduate studies is quite good, and it's ranked pretty high in the world rankings for graduate studies.</p>
<p>when u say the 3.7-4.0 UC GPA & 1850-1950, is that for SD? and how is Davis seen as a UC? would it be just under SD</p>
<p>Yes, I was referring to SD. I'd imagine Davis is a bit more lenient. However, my opinion is mainly based on my previous experiences with schoolmates, you'd have to look up the averages to be sure.</p>
<p><a href="http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php%5B/url%5D">http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php</a>
according to us news, Davis is just under SD. However, I think Davis is very similar to Irvine and Santa Barbara with respect to academics and prestige, so the gap is not that significant.</p>
<p>Davis publishes its admissions formula - you can look it up and see where you stand. The UCSD formula has been published unofficially as well. A 3.7 UC GPA and 1900 SAT's probably won't do the job at UCSD absent other factors two years ago my son had 3.8 - 2100 + 800 & 750 SATIIs - and he didn't get into UCSD. EC's will help, but not a lot.</p>
<p>The admissions difference in terms of average admit between UC Davis and UCSD is quite different. Davis is a mid tier UC, very very similar in admissions difficulty and admission stats to UCI and UCSB. UCSD, is quite a bit tougher to get into and is considered a top tier UC. UCSD's average admit for this year was a 4.06 uc gpa and just shy of a 1950 SAT. UC Davis' average admit was around a 3.9 uc gpa and a 1840 SAT. Here are the links to the average freshmen admit stats from this year. This might give you a better idea of where you stand in comparison to other admits to the specific UC's. </p>
<p>With a 3.7 and 1900 SAT you will almost deff not get into UCSD, while it would probably give you a good shot at UC Davis.</p>
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The most widely known UC's are Berkeley and LA of course, but some consider SD as closer in resemblance to those than to the others.
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<p>I'd say SD is closer in selectivity to mid-tier UCs than top-tier ones. For example, look at the ELC admit rates -- for UCSD and below, it's ~90% and above.</p>
<p>For ELC that may be the case, but statistically, in terms of GPA and SAT, UCSD is closer to say UCLA than it is to UCI/UCSB/UCD. Admit rate is between mid tier UC's whose acceptance rate is somewhere around 60%, UCSD has around a 40% admit rate, and UCB/UCLA has around a 23-25% admit rate. UCSD is in an interesting spot, just below UCB/UCLA and just above UCI/UCSB/UCD. An argument could be made either way, but as an overall university, I consider UCSD significantly closer to UCB/UCLA in academics than UCI/UCSB/UCD. Just my two cents.</p>
<p>i've looked at both formulas, but it seems like the only real way to get points is by getting high test scores/GPA</p>
<p>also, there's not much u can get for ECs or volunteering</p>
<p>so how difficult is it? b/c my profile's not that good, and it seems like u need to have a low-class life to get in
by low-class i mean that it awards a lot of points to low income, adversity, etc.</p>
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An argument could be made either way, but as an overall university, I consider UCSD significantly closer to UCB/UCLA in academics than UCI/UCSB/UCD. Just my two cents.
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<p>I'd consider UCSD closer to mid-tier UCs than Berkeley/UCLA. For example, it's ranked similarly -- UCSD at 38, UCD at 42, and UCSB and UCI at 44; contrast that with Berkeley at 21 and UCLA at 25. Not that US News is hugely accurate on a 10 vs. 20 comparison, but I think it's accurate in relative quality in this case. Just my opinion, though.</p>
<p>does ne1 have thoughts about my comment above?</p>
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<p>Could I get that formula for UC davis?</p>