mid-tier UC chances for a friend

<p>a friend of mine wanted some feedback:</p>

<p>male/asian/CA resident
5 APs by grad
applying to college of biological sciences</p>

<p>SATI: 1820
SATIIs: 630mathIIC, 620bio
UC GPA: 3.5
ECs: not much, like 1 thing
essays: he says they're at least passable, but minimal
so in general, ECs/essay aren't too good, hoping on stats</p>

<p>chances at UCD/UCI/UCSB/UCSD?
any opinions appreciated, i know i didn't give much</p>

<p>With that SAT/GPA, I'd say UCD/UCI/UCSB are slight reaches to high matches (50-60%). UCSD is a reach.</p>

<p>I think he can hope to be accepted by at least one of those schools, though nothing is guaranteed. UCSD is a definite reach.</p>

<p>yeah SD's probably out, but he's still alive for the middle ones</p>

<p>what do u guys think are the "match" stats for the middle UCs?
and would it matter which internal college one applies to? (excluding college of engineering)</p>

<p>I think the only schools he has chances at are UCSC, UC Riverside, and UC Merced.</p>

<p>UCI/UCSB/UCD are definite slight reaches, and UCB/UCLA/UCSD are all reaches.</p>

<p>Id say,</p>

<p>Well the averages for the UC GPA in admitted freshmen are important</p>

<p>UCSD has an average UC GPA of 4.08
UCD has an average UC GPA of around 3.89
UCI: 3.92
UCSB: 3.82</p>

<p>So yeah 3.5 hed be matching to SLIHT reaching at these... How are his extracurriculears thsoe help a HECK of a lot cuz number will be overlooked sometiems for other stuff.</p>

<p>The SAT is fine for these</p>

<p>but the GPA of actually attending freshmen is lower, so maybe 3.5 won't be too bad right?</p>

<p>what do u mean by the ECs? b/c they don't really go in the comp. review calculations</p>

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<p>But they are taken into consideration. Also, for UCSD, ECs are in the calculations.</p>

<p>Is your friend an ELC student?</p>

<p>probably not since it's 3.5</p>

<p>so you're saying that stuff like volunteering will make a difference?
i thought UCD was one of the more number-based UCs</p>

<p>The mid-tier UCs are more numbers-based than Berkeley and UCLA (yes, UCSD is very numbers-oriented, too, though it has a somewhat higher standard than UCD/UCSB/UCI), but volunteering and such are taken into account.</p>

<p>what do u think are the ideal stats for mid-tiers?</p>

<p>4.0weighted to be guarenteed for the mid tier UCs imo.
-ALOT of APs and honors (all UCs like that)
- 1800
-Great deal of maybe a 4 yrs sport for varsity in whihc the team did well. </p>

<p>Thats about the average for mid tier Im guessing? myabe a LIL more for UCD since its the highest mid tier UC and it compares with UCSD in which kids make choices between them.</p>

<p>-would 5-6 APs be a good number?
-does it look bad if someone took a yr off in a sport in order to concentrate to academics? and on the app, do we list our potential senior yr sports?</p>

<p>thanks btw</p>

<p>A couple of APs (2 or 3), along with a couple of honors, 3.8+ UC GPA, and 1850 on the SAT could get you into mid-tier UCs.</p>

<p>And if you're an ELC student, then they're safeties.</p>

<p>thanks KD</p>

<p>i don't know if this is redundant, but would the mid-tier UCs penalize/look down if u don't have much in terms of ECs? like what my friend has (only sports, and took off junior yr) </p>

<p>also, could someone look into my senior sports question? thanks</p>

<p>At the top UCs, ECs are very important, but as you go down the UC tiers, they become less and less important. At the bottom tier, they're not very important at all (especially not at UCR). So for mid-tier UCs, it's somewhat in between. They're still not terribly important for UCSB/UCD/UCI, perhaps slightly more important for UCSD. However, if other parts of the application are weak, they look to factors such as ECs and honors/awards to make the decision. I've seen students with comparatively low GPAs and such get in based on excellent ECs/awards.</p>

<p>With that in mind, just having sports won't adversely affect admission. As long as the grades and SAT are up to par, he should be fine.</p>

<p>thanks so much for the clarification</p>