ED Admission Rates for Recruited Athletes?

<p>I was wondering how often ED recruited division III athletes are rejected/deferred from JHU. Or, optimistically speaking, what are the ED acceptance rates for recruited athletes?</p>

<p>I wasn't assuming I was being recruited. haha. I've posted my stats in another thread (since this isn't really a "chances" thread).</p>

<p>A couple of weeks ago I flew from California to visit JHU for a few days; I had been keeping contactand sending althletic/academic info through email with the coach about possibly playing goalkeeper for the field hockey team. I was in luck - they only had one goalkeeper (who is going to be senior next year), and were in need of a goalkeeper recruit. </p>

<p>When I arrived in MD, I saw their game, talked to some players at the tailgate party, and had lunch with the coach, who was super nice and would occassionally say something along the lines of, "When you practice with us next year..."</p>

<p>In conclusion, I think that constitutes as grounds for being "labeled" a recruit. I somewhat doubt that most people will know the rates, but hopefully laxfan04 can help me out here... :)</p>

<p>omg that sounds amazing. so of course, i am inordinately jealous. :) lol. from the looks of it i'd say you are a reaaaaaaaalllllllllly good chance.</p>

<p>hmm....i'm not an "athlete recruit applicant", but i've always wondered.....if your a "recruited athlete" does that not mean you are already accepted in the school cuz they want u to play for the team? jus curious =)</p>

<p>haha... xtina, I really wish it could be that much easier!</p>

<p>By the way, do you go to JHU?</p>

<p>hahaha, no, i WISH. =) i applied ED.</p>

<p>I was wondering cuz my friend was "recruited" for tennis (she's ranked #17 in US) and was given full ride scholarship to notre dame...so i thought a "recruit" was like...they pick u and ur in lol. </p>

<p>Well good luck to you!! Was it field hockey you said you played? I've never seen that game you play before, so I hope you get in so i can go to one of your games and cheer you on! =)</p>

<p>Take what the coach says with a grain of salt. A few years ago my S was a recruited athlete at JHU and was led to believe that he was in. He had acceptable academic stats for JHU and was a good athlete in his sport. The coach was very very encouraging. In fact, he sent an email one week before the official letters went out, followed up by a telephone call congratulating him on his acceptance. Well- at the last minute, he was deferred instead of accepted. We still don't know why this happened, but it did, and the experience left us very disillusioned with JHU. S is now at another school with great academics, where he is extremely happy, playing his sport, and at a higher level of competition, so life does go on.
I hope things work out for you.</p>

<p>Was your son an ED applicant?</p>

<p>ergg...I forgot to put..."if i get in too..." - i didn't mean that to sound self-confidant or anything, sorry all!~</p>

<p>Eskimo, thanks for the feedback. It's very unnerving, but I'm glad you brought up that situation; I'll be more aware of that possibility. Wow. That's pretty unfair to your son. I'm guessing that he eventually got accepted but chose to play for another team because of the incident?</p>

<p>quit, you raise an interesting ? and have started a good thread. As for specific statistics, unfortunately I do not have access to any published acceptance rates for athletes (either ED or RD). I do know that many of the coaches hope to bring in their top recruits through the ED process, and the numbers are going to be larger in that applicant pool. Being Division III (for everything but LAX) it is helpful to coaches to get their top recruits to apply ED, and hope that they are admitted and commit to JHU early. It makes shaping their team for next season easier.</p>

<p>How much recruit status matters when the adcoms review your app. is the more important part of your question. Unfortunately, the answer it depends. It depends on the individual applicant, how strong a recruit they are, and most importantly it depends on what the recruit can contribute to the team / the classroom / the community / etc. Recruit status obviously will help but it does not assure anything -- especially at a DIII school. Athletes bring a lot to the university, but JHU is first a stellar academic institution and that needs to be maintained. </p>

<p>As far as what "eskimo" had to say it is a disturbing case, but one that not only happens at JHU but many other colleges. You must remember that a COACH is only a COACH -- they are not part of the Admissions process, they do not read applications, and they do not ultimately make decisions on applicants. Coaches at times will "recruit" too much and it may create a murky situation like that one. The final decision rests in the hands of the Admissions committee and until you can an acceptance letter from them, you are not in. </p>

<p>On a related note, I do know in the last few years the relationship between the coaches and admissions had grown very strong, and there is much discussion between both groups. So situations where coaches "reveal" too much does not take place any more.</p>

<p>(((I am glad that eskimo's son did find a great school though and is doing well.)))</p>

<p>Hope that helps.</p>

<p>S was not an ED applicant.
I understand that these things do happen, but frankly was surprised that they happen even at a school like JHU. After events transpired S was so disgusted he would'nt have attended JHU even if he had received a "full ride". (which of course DIII schools don't provide)</p>

<p>Almost all 'recruited' athletes to JHU are ED applicants.</p>

<p>^^xindianx's statement is not correct. Last year only about 50% of the recruited athletes applied early decision and that number will fluctuate each year. Some coaches want to bring all their recruits in as ED applicants, while others will use both decision plans -- it varies year to year, sport to sport.</p>

<p>please know that Lacrosse is the only D-1 sport with the ability to "recruit". All other sports are D3, which cannot recruit. The coach can only add you to his/her list and hope that the adcoms accept you.</p>

<p>Does anyone know about how much influence a Division III coach has upon admissions, or will the adcoms also base a small, small fraction of their decision upon how qualified a prospective student is as an athlete? For example, the field hockey team really, really needs a goalie - would that be taken into account at all?</p>

<p>obviously, it depends on the school. But, I once read an article by an coach at an Ivy...if I recall, he said he submits a list of 10-15 kids for his sport, in his order of preference/need, and he's lucky if admissions accepts 6. Thus, you need to know if a coach has you at or near the top of his/her list.</p>

<p>oh, sorry about that. I basically meant that usually the fact that you are an athlete has more weight if you apply early decision. Like, two of my friends who were called by JHU coaches on their cell phones and stuff said the coaches basically hinted on applying early decision because it would benefit them.</p>

<p>Simply put, there is no definitive policy to answer your questions about DIII recruits at Hopkins. Each applicant/recruit is reviewed differently depending on how "strong" they are, how "good of a fit" they are, and how "strong" a recruit they are. Also each coach does things differently. And to top it all off, things change every year.</p>

<p>Just know that being on a coach's "list" does matter and does have a positive influence on your application. But it is DIII sports, so the ultimate decision will be made by Admissions, no matter how hard a coach is pushing or how much contact they have had with the recruit.</p>

<p>Hope that explains it a bit better.</p>

<p>what do u think of my ED chance at Hopkins? here goes:</p>

<p>New SAT- suck ****.. 1410 lol T_T (retaking in Dec.)
ACT without writing (writing is not available in Thailand)
CBT TOEFL -257</p>

<p>IB english A1 SL
IB spanish Ab
IB Math Methods
IB Geography HL
IB Biology HL
IB Chemistry HL
IB TOK</p>

<p>i was hinted by hopkins tennis coach that im on the top of his list.. so will increase my chance at Hopkins despite the fact that my standardized test scores are damn low? thanks and gluck to everyone with their apps!</p>

<p>oh i forgot to type my ACT score.. its 22 lol</p>

<p>and i also forgot to mention that I am a full IB Diploma student</p>