<p>College of New Jersey,William and Mary, University of Georgia, Florida State University, University of Iowa, Miami University in Ohio, University of Oregon, University of Washington, University of Arizona, and University of Texas-Austin. Ivy for cheap, eh?</p>
<p>Some of those schools won’t be too cheap for OOS kids…</p>
<p>Northeast:</p>
<pre><code>* College of New Jersey (formerly Trenton State Univ.) is a former teachers college that has remade itself into a selective university stressing the liberal arts, business and accounting, and is a perennial in the best buys category.
- College of William and Mary is the original public Ivy with strong history, government and international studies departments.
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<p>Southeast:</p>
<pre><code>* The University of Georgias Hope Scholarship gives in-state students with a 3.0 GPA free tuition, and the school boasts strong business and journalism programs (along with the quintessential college town of Athens)
- Florida State University has built its popularity in football recently, but also features one of the best motion picture schools in the country.
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<p>Midwest:</p>
<pre><code>* The University of Iowa is a bargain compared with other Big Ten schools and is world-famous for its creative writing program.
- Miami University in Ohio gives the impression of an elite private university with a strong business program.
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<p>Northwest:</p>
<pre><code>* The University of Oregon may be the best deal in public higher education on the West Coast with noted liberal arts, business and communications programs, and a manageable size in a great location.
- The University of Washington is the Pacific Northwests leading research university and is strong in pre-professional studies, but remains tough for out-of-state admission.
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<p>Southwest:</p>
<pre><code>* University of Arizona is the best value for out-of-state students with strong engineering and honors programs, and appeal for outdoor enthusiasts.
- The University of Texas-Austin is still one of the cheapest major universities in the country with a focus on business, engineering and Latin American studies.
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<p>bwwwaaaaaah…oh puhleeze. Its another broad brush approach and cynical attempt to sell books. While there are some fine schools listed, and I dont knock any college…some of those larger schools are hard to get in, but once there, the undergraduate programs are not all that strong. Graduate research is another matter all together.</p>
<p>blah blah blah.</p>
<p>Oh please, Budget Ivy League? More like Kudzu League (UG, UF), Crabgrass League (UI, UO, C of NJ), or Cactus League.</p>
<p>William & Mary is the only school on the list that deserves to be in the same sentence as ‘Ivy League.’ And I thought College of NJ meant Rutgers … sadly not. This list is bogus.</p>
<p>Princeton was once called The College of New Jersey. Just throwing that out there.</p>
<p>There was an article last Spring that the University of Washington’s intro biology class has 700 students in it. (That’s in one section). That’s hardly an Ivy League education.</p>
<p>Why so many “knickers in a twist”?</p>
<p>Seven of the ten colleges on the list have previously been noted as “Public Ivies”. Three of the schools (William & Mary, Miami-Ohio and UT-Austin) are members of both Richard Moll’s first such compilation as wells as the subsequent Greene Guide listing. Four others (Iowa, Arizona, Washington and Georgia) are in Greene. The “budget” just reflects an in-state tuition factor.</p>
<p>This list made me laugh…so at least that’s one positive thing it has accomplished.</p>
<p>@ChicagoBear – LOL!</p>
<p>There was a story here the other day that several Ivy intro level classes have over 500 students. Psychology was one with 1100 I think–Cornell.</p>
<p>True…some Ivy League schools do have large intro classes…the Ivy is Ivy because their entrance requirements are so high, they have no merit scholarships and they were formed originally as an athletic association, fed by rich kids from Northeastern Prep Schools. </p>
<p>The notion you dont learn as much at other colleges is an absurdity on its face.</p>
<p>“A popular scholarship that has become a near-birthright for Georgians is going broke, and state officials begrudgingly acknowledge theyll have to cut participation or reduce benefits if it is to survive.” [News:</a> Losing HOPE - Inside Higher Ed](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/09/21/hope]News:”>http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/09/21/hope)</p>
<p>I laughed, too. Some of these schools are VERY hard to get into, especially from out of state. That is all.</p>
<p>I just don’t get the allure of Miami-Ohio. The students I know who go there are extremely heavy into drinking and partying and it strikes me as a wanna-be-a-real-northeast-preppy kind of place. I know it’s popular with many others on this forum, but I don’t see it.</p>
<p>how is $30k for OOS cheap? lol</p>
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The College of NJ stats:
SAT-CR: 560 - 660
SAT-M: 590 - 690
SAT-W: 570 - 670
Acceptance rate: 46%</p>
<p>Rutgers-New Brunswick stats:
SAT-CR: 530 - 630
SAT-M: 560 - 680
SAT-W: 540 - 640
Acceptance rate: 61%</p>
<p>Penn State-University Park stats:
SAT-CR: 530 - 630
SAT-M: 560 - 670
SAT-W: 540 - 640
Acceptance rate: 52%</p>
<p>The College of New Jersey doesn’t have a national reputation like Penn State or Rutgers, but statistically, it may be the most selective public school in the Mid-Atlantic area. St. Mary’s College of Maryland is another overlooked public school in this area with comparably high SATs. </p>
<p>Competitive with Princeton? No. But competitive with Rutgers? Sure.</p>
<p>All stats from collegeboard dot com</p>
<p>FSU?!!?!?! FSU?!?!? Yea rightttt. Half my high schools 3.0 GPA students went there. Ivy League is Ivy League. There are a few top schools around: Stanford, MIT, Caltech, etc. But you CANNOT put “FSU” in the same category. The quality of students is just not the same. </p>
<p>I don’t mean to sound arrogant, but to compare a school like “The University of Georgia” with “Yale” is ridiculous. You won’t have the same opportunities/networking as Yale: Nobel Laureates as professors, a myriad of study abroad, exchange programs, the networking with alumni that own half the country, etc etc.</p>
<p>Concerning Miami - it’s definitely not BYU, but neither is it Sodom and Gomorrah State. It is a work-hard, play-hard school with a preppy undercurrent, so the grunge/hippy student may not feel quite as at home. About 1/3 of the students are Greek, but that leaves a vast majority who are not.</p>
<p>It has a huge following with parents and students due to the beauty of the campus, the focus on undergraduate education, the ability to readily graduate in four years and most importantly its reputation for job placement/admission to grad school. (Med school admission rate for honors students 82%, regular students 69% and most large midwest businesses/banks recruit heavily there.)</p>
<p>So much elitism in one thread. Is it really necessary to bash state schools? Fiske is saying that these schools provide high quality educations at low prices - hence the name “Budget Ivy League”.</p>
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With all due respect, you come off as arrogant. More importantly, what you’re saying is incorrect.
- UGA does have distinguished professors, including Nobel Laureates, on staff
- UGA provides a “myriad of study abroad and exchange programs” (statistically, more than 1/3 of students participate in study abroad programs, making UGA’s study abroad program one of the largest in the country)
- Statements like “the networking with alumni that own half the country” are precisely the reason you come across as arrogant.</p>
<p>If you care to continue this discussion, I’ll gladly argue that many UGA students (especially those of the “CC Calibre”) have access to more opportunities than many Ivy League students. I suspect similar statements could be made of all the other public schools on OP’s list, i.e. they provide a good education and good opportunities at good prices.</p>