<p>National Universities with the greatest decrease in admissions percent 2001 to 2006</p>
<p>Baylor University -36
Tulane University of Louisiana -23
Southern Methodist University -21
University of Minnesota-Twin Cities -19
University of Connecticut -17
American University -15
The University of Texas at Austin -15
Syracuse University -13
University of Florida -12
University of Georgia -12
University of Washington-Seattle Campus -12
George Washington University -11
Vanderbilt University -11
University of Maryland-College Park -11
Worcester Polytechnic Institute -10
University of Southern California -9
Lehigh University -9</p>
<p>^^^^^^^Notice how 10 of these 17 schools are geographically located OUTSIDE of the Northeast and two others are in the DC area. This supports my oft-stated point that more and more quality students are heading to a broader cross section of schools in a broader range of regions across the country. If you look at the enrolled student demographics at nearly all of these schools, you will see a broader and higher quality enrollment base than ever before. Geographic diversity and wide-ranging excellent students are happening from Waco to New Orleans to Dallas to Minneapolis to Austin to Gainesville to Athens to Seattle to Nashville, even to LA. Hopefully, the public is catching on and recognizing that there are a wide variety of great educational choices around the country.</p>
<p>Collegehelp, Thanks for the correction. Furthermore, none of these three would be historically considered as part of the Northeastern elite universe. Student excellence is spreading.....</p>
<p>I think Hawkette is dead on. The Flagship Universities are really starting to become strong in research. In an international world economy this will be the new bench mark in prestige. </p>
<p>Also Washington DC & Maryland are classified as Mid-Atlantic states.</p>
<p>College-I don't know the source of your list but Wisconsin dropped from 66.6% in 2000 to 58% in 2006. It also dropped even more from the 1997 rate of nearly 78%. This year the number will be around 55% continuing the trend.</p>
<p>NYU isn't going down, for all the nay-sayers. It may stay stagnant for a few years but saying that it isn't a nationally acclaimed or "rising" university is foolish. Their graduate program is quite impressive and any attempt to discredit the #2 Business School in the nation (with such close proximity to Wall Street) should be laughed at.</p>
<p>barrons-
My data came from IPEDS. According to their "Peer Analysis System", Wisconsin admit rate dropped from 76 in 2001 to 73 in 2006. It may have decreased more than 3% over a longer time period.</p>
<p>I think larger universities are more stable and change more slowly. With the smaller LACs, 50 or 100 students can make a big difference in percentages.</p>
<p>yield is the percent of admitted students who actually enroll</p>
<p>schools that increased their admissions yield from 2001 to 2006 (IPEDS)</p>
<p>Ohio State University-Main Campus 9
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 8
University of Pennsylvania 8
Barnard College 8
Stevens Institute of Technology 8
Brown University 7
University of Florida 7
Hamilton College 6
Washington University in St Louis 6
University of Georgia 6
Harvard University 6
Texas A & M University 6
University of California-Davis 6
Hendrix College 6
Yale University 5
Union College 5
Vanderbilt University 5
Claremont McKenna College 4
Gettysburg College 4
Wheaton College 4
University of Denver 4
Colorado College 3
Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus 3
Franklin and Marshall College 3
Pomona College 3
St Lawrence University 3
Wabash College 2
Brigham Young University 2
Reed College 2
Dickinson College 2
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 2
Northwestern University 2
The University of Texas at Austin 2
Macalester College 2
Carleton College 2
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 2
Bucknell University 2
Randolph-Macon College 2
Georgetown University 2
Denison University 2
University of Rochester 2
Syracuse University 2
Michigan State University 1
University of Colorado at Boulder 1
Connecticut College 1
New York University 1
Williams College 1
Colgate University 1
Skidmore College 1
Princeton University 1
Vassar College 1
Bryn Mawr College 1
Augustana College 1
Thomas Aquinas College 1
Haverford College 1
Kenyon College 1
Allegheny College 1
Cornell University 1
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 1</p>
<p>schools that decreased the most in yield 2001 to 2006</p>
<p>I noticed something strange. Some of the schools that had the largest drop in their admissions rate also had the greatest drop in yield. I took a closer look at Baylor.</p>
<p>From 2001 to 2006 Baylor's apps increased from 7986 to 21393 (168% increase) maybe due to online app process or something</p>
<p>Baylor's admit rate went down from 79% to 43% (probably helped their rankings)</p>
<p>students accepted 2001 = 6308
students accepted 2006 = 9199</p>
<p>Baylor's yield decreased from 44% in 2001 to 31% in 2006</p>
<p>Net result:
Baylor enrolled 2776 freshmen in 2001
Baylor enrolled 2852 freshmen in 2006 (about the same)</p>
<p>SATs in 2001 = 1080-1280
SATs in 2006 = 1090-1310 (about the same)</p>
<p>big changes turned out to be no changes</p>
<p>Ursinus and Tulane also had a big drop in admit rate but then a big drop in yield</p>
<p>What is going on?</p>
<p>California Institute of Technology -5
St. Olaf College -5
University of Miami -5
Worcester Polytechnic Institute -5
Saint Johns University -5
Wake Forest University -5
Drew University -5
Wells College -5
Hope College -5
Occidental College -5
St Mary's College of Maryland -5
Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus -5
Wheaton College -5
Smith College -5
Marquette University -5
Tufts University -6
Bates College -6
Beloit College -6
The College of Wooster -6
Amherst College -7
Austin College -7
Miami University-Oxford -7
University of Minnesota-Twin Cities -7
Hollins University -7
Fordham University -7
Principia College -8
Rice University -8
Gustavus Adolphus College -8
Ohio Wesleyan University -8
Southwestern University -8
Washington and Lee University -9
University of Washington-Seattle Campus -9
Hanover College -10
Muhlenberg College -10
Albion College -10
Harvey Mudd College -12
Millsaps College -12
Tulane University of Louisiana -12
Ursinus College -12
Agnes Scott College -13
Willamette University -13
Baylor University -13
Bennington College -15
Saint Louis University-Main Campus -16
DePauw University -17
Birmingham Southern College -17
New College of Florida -18
The University of Tennessee -22</p>
<p>barrons,
I checked again. The IPEDS admit percent for U of Wisconsin Madison in 2005 was 73% and in 2006 it was 73%. The IPEDS numbers are the official numbers. The US Dept of Ed provides guidlines for calculating them. The researchers at Wisconsin provide them. But maybe Wisconsin has been using the wrong denominator. Or, perhaps there is something going on with whether to count part 1 of a 2-part app as an application.</p>
<p>Maybe you should ask someone at Wisconsin about the discrepancy.</p>
<p>It could be that Wisconsin is being refreshingly honest about their statistics.</p>
<p>The admit rates at Michigan, Maryland, Virginia are in the range 35% to 45% which I find surprising. Maybe the other schools are "cooking" their numbers which makes it hard for Wisconsin to stay honest. Pure speculation, of course. I don't really know.</p>
<p>One of my neighbors from home is a PhD student in Chem at Wisconsin. His wife is a PhD student in bio there. They love it. They made me an honorary Badger.</p>
<p>Well, the Data Digest matches exactly the CDS for the same year. I believe the error is in the Ipeds data as it does not match newspaper reports or the other two data sources.</p>