Emory moved up in rankings

<p>Emory is now ranked 17th along with Rice and Vanderbilt...I was surprised that Emory moved up in rankings this year, because I heard Emory's yield was really low this year.</p>

<p>National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report</p>

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<p>More about their rankings on the Emory website:</p>

<p>[Emory</a> University | Atlanta, GA | Emory Ranked 17th by U.S. News & World Report](<a href=“http://www.emory.edu/home/news/releases/2009/08/ranked-17th-us-news-world-report.html]Emory”>http://www.emory.edu/home/news/releases/2009/08/ranked-17th-us-news-world-report.html)</p>

<p>I think they eliminated “yield” as a criteria a couple of years back because it led to bad behavior on the part of colleges, e.g. turning down good candidates because they thought they might not come. And I suspect many schools have lost candidates to less expensive state schools as a result of the economy in this last year. In a year or so we might expect to see some of the state schools move up a bit in the rankings as a result, not because they have higher yield but because they are getting a better group of students than before.</p>

<p>Actually, it was my class that was ranked. I think my class was responsible for Emory’s largest applicant pool in a while or “ever” for that matter. The incoming freshman (you, I guess) had slightly higher yield than our class. However, a slightly higher (less than 2% more) percentage of y’all were admitted because of the decrease in applications. Overall, despite the 1.4 increase in admission rate, the actual “number” of you admitted was less than my class. Also, middle-50% standardized test scores were down a negligible (In my opinion, 10 points down on the high and low end of the SAT is not serious, and neither is 1 down on the ACT low end. But I have no idea what USNW will think)amount compared to my class. I also still don’t know how much they weight admissions rate. I imagine they are not weighted as much as I used to imagine when actually looking at USNW rankings. If weighted heavily, Emory will fall next year, or Vanderbilt (I guess we consider them our rival in the southeast) will surpass us since their admissions rate continues to drop sharply, not to mention I think their applicant pool for the current incoming freshmen saw an increase over class of 2012. This is what they claim at least. Apparently, their “middle-50” stats took a nice little jump too (But then again, we always tie or are slightly ahead of them despite their “middle-50” stats pretty much always being higher than ours, so I don’t know if this will change much. I think we may have an advantage in the “national profile” area. Not sure, but it’s what I hear). I really don’t know what rankings look like next year. The economy’s effect (or lack thereof) on some variables at certain universities may bring some interesting results in the “2011” rankings.</p>

<p>I think name recognition plays a big role in the rankings, Vandy will continue to rise in their rankings, because it attracts kids from all over the country and has better name recognition nationwide than Emory…Rice would have been ranked a lot higher, if they had more people from out-of-state, if you look at their Sat Scores and class ranks of their student bodies its a lot higher than Emory and Vandy…</p>

<p>Again, my understanding is that Emory has the larger national profile. However, if you break down where the incoming classes are coming from regionally, they are nearly equal for both. I can tell you the Emory is more diverse (Just by mere percentage of minorities, I don’t want to start some war defining real diversity) and attracts quite a bit more international students than them along with more people from the mid-Atlantic and Northeast which is somewhat significant. I think it’s Vandy’s stats that continue to hold them up against Emory if you’re right, but then again, it may be our national profile holding us up against them.</p>

<p>It will be interesting to see Vandy’s published stats for the Class of '13. With their new no-loan policy, test scores appeared to jump. And, I would not be surprised if geographic diversity increased somewhat.</p>

<p>Yes, I checked out their stats. on their website, and it’s gotten a lot closer to Emory’s in terms of geographic diversity. They also had a hefty little increase in ethnic diversity (still not quite to Emory’s level as said before). Yeah, but their test scores seem to have (according to what they report) surpassed Duke’s and perhaps some of the Ivies (actually most schools) if their low-end for the mid-50 range is a 1400. I don’t how much it’ll help in ranking though. I don’t know if they will jump significantly because of that. As said, I’m beginning to think some things are weighted more heavily than those stats. (basically selectivity stats.)</p>

<p>bernie:</p>

<p>student selectivity is 15% of total USNews’ score. Within that 15%, half is SAT scores; 40% is top 10% of HS class, and the remaining 10% (of 15%) is acceptance rate. Thus, SAT-ACT scores count of 15% of 15%, or 2.25% of total score.</p>

<p>Cool, thanks.</p>