Emory Video: The Undergraduate Experience

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<p>Emory Video: The Undergraduate Experience
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5CnRFGzUHM%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5CnRFGzUHM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I haven't seen the latest Emory DVD that is sent out upon request, but this YouTube video was posted within the past month (late January 2009). If it sounds a bit gushy, it's probably because it was produced by Emory's Office of Admission, and likely has a PR intent.</p>

<p>On the other hand, I think it does a good job of providing good visuals of buildings and facilities -- and as a parent, I am always so envious of my daughter attending a school with such fabulous facilities, such as the WoodPEC (PE Center) and the rare collections in the Woodruff Library (which I visit every time I'm on campus). Some of the professors interviewed are ones I have met, and they are indeed THAT way (enthusiastic). The opportunities conveyed by some of the students are what I consider to be realistic possibilities based on what I have seen.</p>

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<p>This video is great! It's making me love Emory even more!</p>

<p>Lehman Brothers and Goldman Sachs at 10:35...lol.</p>

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<p>That video was so sickening. Especially the part about greek life. The three kids posing in their fraternity shirts are not even a part of that fraternity, clearly models. What's more 2/3 of those fraternities are in severe danger of being kicked off campus. In fact, Emory is doing its best to get rid of greek life for good. </p>

<p>Also, the DUC having good food? I wonder what they bribed that kid with to get him to say that. They probably offered him to get out of his meal plan =P</p>

<p>Don't get me wrong, Emory is a great place, but some points in that video are extremely skewed.</p>

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<p>^^</p>

<p>JS1091, there's no doubt that the video has a certain positive spin, as might be appropriate for its purpose by Emory's Office of Admission. That said, you're making some statements that are dubious at best, and perhaps outright false at worst (i.e., "Emory is doing its best to get rid of greek life for good.") If nothing else, though, your post is a caveat to all to always "consider the source" of so-called "information".</p>

<p>I have eaten at the DUC with my daughter on occasion, and there's reason to believe that the food is not exactly gourmet, but it's hardly poor by comparison to so many other schools. (I live close to UC Berkeley, and I can assure you that even though Berkeley is the epicenter to "California Cuisine", you wouldn't know it by the eateries on the UC campus.) The truth may be that very few institutional food services are going to be as good as you might like, especially if you're eating at there 7 days a week. Maybe it's just me, but I never complain about food ... given how so many go without, period.</p>

<p>I haven't responded to you previously, but with all candidness, you are seemingly assuming the role of "king of criticism" for Emory. While Emory is not perfect (and what school is?), it has a lot to offer. I realize that there may have a lot of issues in your mind, but try to identify those things that are most important to you -- and be open to exploration while at Emory. There's a certain truth that "bad things" will always find you, but "good things" are what you need to seek out. Best wishes to you.</p>

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<p>I personally could care less about a sorority for myself. Not my thing. So that issue doesn't even matter to myself.</p>

<p>When I was doing a science program at Vanderbilt this summer, I essentially ate hospital food at Vanderbilt Medical Center almost everyday. It's not amazing food, but it's not horrible. And food yumminess is something I would never even consider when thinking about what college to go to. It's not that big of a deal.</p>

<p>Though I do appreciate you calling out the biases.</p>

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<p>"That said, you're making some statements that are dubious at best, and perhaps outright false at worst (i.e., "Emory is doing its best to get rid of greek life for good.") If nothing else, though, your post is a caveat to all to always "consider the source" of so-called "information"."</p>

<p>How about the fact that 1/2 of the Chi Phi fraternity was recently kicked out this semester? (See front-page article of the Emory Wheel) How about the tri-delta sorority that is currently on probation? How about the other 3 fraternities recently on probation - Sig nu, Beta (just got off, almost kicked off campus), and phi delt. How about the fraternity of APES, an entirely off-campus fraternity that one risks expulsion if administration finds out that he is a member? </p>

<p>Seems like they are VERY welcoming of the greek system to me...</p>

<p>Also, most of those fraternities above are listed as being on GLA "Gold Status" on Emory's information packets. Truth be told, most are on Bronze AT BEST. They literally blatantly lie on their greek-life brochures. </p>

<p>And the DUC...maybe it isn't so bad. I'm just saying it clearly isn't worth the price we pay to eat there. Technically, if a freshman eats there 3 times a day, 7 days a week, 4 weeks a month, 4.5 months a semester, it averages out to $6.61. (More than the general admission price which is $5.xx) Not to mention, it's practically impossible to eat there that many times. </p>

<p>Besides, if I ate at the DUC once every few months like NorCalDad, I probably wouldn't find it so bad either. However, every day?... Not so much.</p>

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<p>"How about the fact that 1/2 of the Chi Phi fraternity was recently kicked out this semester? (See front-page article of the Emory Wheel) How about the tri-delta sorority that is currently on probation? How about the other 3 fraternities recently on probation - Sig nu, Beta (just got off, almost kicked off campus), and phi delt. How about the fraternity of APES, an entirely off-campus fraternity that one risks expulsion if administration finds out that he is a member?</p>

<p>Seems like they are VERY welcoming of the greek system to me...</p>

<p>Also, most of those fraternities above are listed as being on GLA "Gold Status" on Emory's information packets. Truth be told, most are on Bronze AT BEST. They literally blatantly lie on their greek-life brochures."</p>

<p>It doesn't appear that you're a member of Greek Life, and it's really not fair of you to pass judgment on something that you know little about. </p>

<p>A chapter's GLA status is completely independent of their probationary status. The GLA program is like an accreditation. We have to fulfill certain requirements each year to remain recognized. What you may not know is that the process for being placed on social probation doesn't require a burden of proof. So if someone accuses a fraternity of an alcohol violation or rush violation, they admit guilt, because the punishment is much less. The mere existence of an accusation is enough to place them on probation, and since the student-run IFC and the chapter work together to come up with a punishment, it's much easier in most cases just to accept the 3-4 weeks of probation and carry on than it is to fight it.</p>

<p>As far as chi phi (I'm not a member), their national organization placed their upperclassmen on alumni status. While the University didn't do anything to stop it, Chi Phi has had a long history of mistakes and violations. While I don't think it was fair, they kept pushing and eventually something like this was going to happen to them.</p>

<p>APES isn't recognized by the University, because they were kicked off campus in 1994. Not sure why exactly. They have a long history of hazing and other problems, so the University is taking a stand.</p>

<p>There are reasons behind all of these, whether you agree with them or not, you're ignoring the other 12 fraternities that aren't on probation and doing just fine. If you don't like the Greek system, you're more than welcome to continue your diatribe at Clairmont Campus, but it's really a biased view of things.</p>

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<p>Actually, you mistook my tone entirely. I was criticizing emory for their harsh treatment of the greek system (which I am a part of)</p>

<p>I know probationary status with Emory and GLA status have nothing to do with each other. I was merely pointing out that Emory lied on it's info packets, I wasn't trying to highlight the irony of a "gold-status" fraternity on probation (i dont think there are any in that situation right now anyways)</p>

<p>Yes, Chi Phi nationals took those steps themselves, but only because they feared the university would have kicked them out if they had not acted first. </p>

<p>APES was kicked off for supposedly throwing a couch off their roof and hitting someone. Mistakes happen. </p>

<p>Chi Phi was also kicked off in the late 80s i believe, and came back again about 10 years later. </p>

<p>I'm not quite sure why you felt my post was an attack on Greek life...It's actually the most rewarding experience i've had here.</p>

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<p>Now that I re-read my post, I guess i see how you could have taken it the wrong way. I meant that it was sickening how they make it seem like they truly embrace greek life and champion its presence. I didn't mean that our actual greek life sickens me. haha. It's quite the opposite.</p>

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<p>Fair enough, I stand corrected.</p>

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<p>Emory definitely has a problem embracing greek life, and being a member of the greek community myself, I can't help but get the feeling that if the school had its way the system would be shut down altogether. I would say the top 3 things that bring a student body together on college campuses across the country are greek life, school spirit, and residence. Emory purposely splits the upperclassmen from the lowerclassmen in housing (Clairmont/off-campus housing vs. mandatory on-campus dorms), it hampers the greek system and its goals, and it totally fails to cultivate any kind of school spirit. It shouldn't be all that surprising, then, that Emory students' main complaint is about the cliquey student body.</p>