<p>Not defending it, just suggesting a bit at to why the South still isn't in a lot of Northerner's favor. I know I would never voluntarily choose to live south of D.C. for a variety of reasons.</p>
<p>While I agree that the reference was uncalled for, I would be very surprised if the reference was meant in anything other than jest.</p>
<p>"One of the big differences between Emory and UGA honors is their student bodies. 29% of Emory students are from Georgia while 85% at UGA come from Georgia."</p>
<p>One small change, only 18% of Emory students are from Georgia and 62% of Emory students come from outside of the southeast.</p>
<p>I'm sure I'll read some more of these, but CayugaRed,</p>
<p>that "suffocating sprawl" you refer to is caused by one thing and one thing only, Northerners running down to the South at record paces, i.e. # of Jewish synagogues and Catholic schools in Metro Atlanta have pretty much quadrupled in the past decade or so. Correlation.</p>
<p>Thanks hawkette for your responses!</p>
<p>As for all the south-hating...I live in Georgia, and I think it's a great place to grow up. Then again, I live in an affluent, white, suburb of Atlanta with a great education system.</p>
<p>By the way, it sounds like you just got off Emory's wait list (?), so have you figured out how much debt you'll be in if you go to Emory?</p>
<p>Emory is generally regarded nationally as a school for people who couldn't get into ivies. Even WUSTL is probably outpacing it a bit these days. It certainly wouldn't be viewed as favorably as places like Cornell or Northwestern.</p>
<p>amadani,
Thanks for setting us straight on the IS numbers for Emory and UGA as I was working with outdated data from another thread. </p>
<p>As the numbers indicate for Emory (18% IS and 62% from outside of the SE), Emory has a broad national distribution of students. And I would suggest that these students compete effectively vs some of their more heralded peers on commonly used statistics, eg, standardized test scores (Emory has ACT avg of 31 vs. 31 at U Penn, Dartmouth and Northwestern, 30.5 at Columbia and U Chicago, and 30 at Cornell, Brown, Johns Hopkins, and Vanderbilt). </p>
<p>As for luxlibertas's statements for Cornell and Northwestern, IMO this would be true in their home regions and to a lesser degree nationally, but not in the SE vs Emory. Wash U is a good comp, albeit with a stronger student profile than Emory (and Cornell and NW).</p>
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Emory has ACT avg of 31 vs. 31 at U Penn, Dartmouth and Northwestern, 30.5 at Columbia and U Chicago, and 30 at Cornell, Brown, Johns Hopkins, and Vanderbilt).
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Source for that? I've been looking for average standardized test scores for quite some time now.</p>
<p>I'm not sure how this fits in, but I definitely know for a fact that Emory has a huge endowment (very, very rich school--the campus resembles a country club, most notably the Clairmont Apartments) and probably attracts many bright students (who've also been accepted to Ivies and other comparable schools) with alluring offers of financial aid.</p>
<p>Emory's latest reported data for endowment shows overall size of $5.56 billion and per capita of $518k. Some others that rank below Emory are:</p>
<p>$506k Duke
$460k Wash U
$407k Northwestern
$340k Brown
$311k Columbia
$295k U Penn
$294k Vanderbilt
$274k Cornell</p>
<p>I'd bet at least half of that comes from Coke money, which is great.</p>
<p>yeah. a ton of it does come from coke money, and as far as the south bashing comments, as someone who has had the privelage to grow up in both the north and the south, comments like those (aka lynching) not only create hostility, but just make you sound like the ignorant one. please, think before you make comments like that, or better yet, if you make these comments back them up, because frankly i have no earthly idea what these south bashing comments are about and although i am not truly from the south, i find them very offensive and ignorant and dont know whether i should be angry about someone saying that about a place where i live or should just start laughing at the sheer ignorance (and i am tempted to say stupidity) of these statements.</p>
<p>@Igellar: Emory has not sent me my finaid package yet. They told me to expect it sometime next week, after which I have 24 hours to decide if I'll enroll or not.</p>
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I'm not sure how this fits in, but I definitely know for a fact that Emory has a huge endowment (very, very rich school--the campus resembles a country club, most notably the Clairmont Apartments) and probably attracts many bright students (who've also been accepted to Ivies and other comparable schools) with alluring offers of financial aid.
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Funny you say that because Emory's financial aid offer was my second worst (out of 8 schools).
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$506k Duke
$460k Wash U
$407k Northwestern
$340k Brown
$311k Columbia
$295k U Penn
$294k Vanderbilt
$274k Cornell
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Vanderbilt gave me a little over $12,000 more than Emory. Yeah, I used to think endowment per student mattered too.</p>
<p>"Emory is generally regarded nationally as a school for people who couldn't get into ivies."....haha</p>
<p>Tell that to Taggert who is going to Dartmouth, (and many other top schools), but was waitlisted to Emory...Gotta love being a NJ female applying RD ....(yes, I know Leibow's D was accepted......)</p>
<p>In regards to the rest of this thread, Emory is a great school....for certain things and for certain goals......There are many students who have been successful obtaining jobs in the North and elsewhere out of Goizueta; but not everyone has necessarily been successful in that respect.....No telling if these students would have been successful elsewhere, though, so it's easy for students and parents to blame the fact that Emory is in the South for their lack of employment in the North.</p>
<p>In terms of admissions, Emory is on a mission to "create a class" as other schools are... their goals appear to be elusive, but I'm sure they have a mandate.....it's not a question of "tufts Syndrome", but this year's RD results clearly showed passing up higher stats for lower ones that lent both ethnic and geographic diversity to a school that used to not have it.......</p>
<p>Yes, I have no idea why, because Emory's endowment is so huge, but Emory has become notorious for their terrible financial aid this year. Apparently the trend is you only get a lot if you're seriously "poor", but otherwise they don't give you diddly squat.</p>
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Tell that to Taggert who is going to Dartmouth, (and many other top schools), but was waitlisted to Emory
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it's not a question of "tufts Syndrome"
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Are you joking? It's a textbook example of Tufts Syndrome. Emory knew the person was overqualified, which meant it would be a waste of an acceptance since they almost definitely would not be enrolling.</p>
<p>lgellar: Sorry, those two statements were not meant to be together.....Yea, Taggert's situation may be unique??? but I was referring to many others than do not appear to be "tufts syndrome" situations.....Ones which were matches based on stats...Sorry for the confusion.....</p>
<p>lgellar,
I wouldn't make such a direct connection between endowment per capita and financial aid. Congrats on your Vanderbilt aid package, but Emory (like Vanderbilt) does meet 100% of demonstrated need which is far from universally true. Emory probably chooses to spend its money in different ways or perhaps your application was redundant in some way to other students that they had already accepted. Either way, Emory is a quality place with deep financial resources and IMO, deserves higher and more consideration from top high school students.</p>
<p>Lets be perfectly honest almost every school in this nation (with the select few--Chicago, Duke...and a few others) is for Ivy-rejects. Kids who can't go to Ivy will go to places like Emory. Emory is a good school (top 25) but from what I heard it like Vanderbilt has trouble finding graduations jobs up north in places like NYC. Also you can't compare Emory to WUSTL--Wustl is far superior in reputation.</p>