<p>Let me preface this by stating that I am on the waitlist for Brown, and I do not know what my chances are for getting off.</p>
<p>That said, I want to know whether it’s even worth it for me to pursue the waitlist if I’m interested in engineering. Brown obviously does not have a strong reputation as an engineering school (at least that I know of). Would I suffer from trying to do engineering at Brown? Basically, I just want to know more about the program and what opportunities are available.</p>
<p>it’s kind of oxymoronic to get an engineering degree from an ivy league school (except Cornell) , if this is your terminal degree, I would suggest getting from a top 10 engineering school.</p>
<p>MiPerson: you are flat-out wrong. wrong wrong wrong. Many people get engineering degrees from Brown and are extremely successful. I know many of them. Not a single one regrets going to Brown for engineering, or ever hankered after a top-10 engineering school.</p>
<p>so fireanddrain, you are an engineer or hire engineers? I do. I have a BS, MS and PE in ME, and if a student’s passion is engineering and he wants to start with a job after school, a Brown degree isn’t going to get you anymore $ than Ga Tech, Va Tech, U of M etc… I do agree if you do bio-medical, this might be a good BS for med-school but going to the engineering world, I would not pay more for an engineering degree from an ivy league if I could pay less for a good in-state school.</p>
<p>You really should not comment on a subject you don’t know anything about.</p>
<p>I think that if you assume that engineers want a solely preprofessional degrees then you’re painting a poor picture. That being said, if the goal is simply to be an ABET certified engineer with a job then you have no business applying to top schools with liberal arts learning goals.</p>
<p>Brown provides more than just rigorous training to be a cerified engineer. If your goals don’t extend beyond job prep then there is little difference between any reasonably respected, cerified program.</p>
<p>MiPerson: I do know a lot about Brown engineering, and I’m not going to give you any more info than that without identifying myself. So I have as much a right to comment as you do.</p>
<p>If your ONLY definition of whether Brown engineering is good is whether a graduate can
“get more money” then you have an incredibly limited perspective on life.</p>
<p>First I’d like to thank Fire and Rain for all your helpful advice during the last several months. </p>
<p>I am an engineer with a PE from a “Top 10 engineering school”. My daughter is planning on studying engineering but alas… was rejected from Brown. It was the only ivy she applied to. Luckily she was accepted at a “Top 10 Engineering school” (different from mine… she wants to forge her own way) and is happy with how things worked out. My biggest concern is the lack of liberal arts which will be available to her (it is a concern of hers also).</p>
<p>I strongly believe that liberal arts in engineering encourages creativity and ingenuity. Brown met all her criteria but unfortunately she did not meet theirs.</p>
<p>Thanks again Fire and Rain (are you a fan of James Taylor by the way??) I am!!</p>
<p>OldEngineer: So sorry about your daughter not getting in to Brown, but I’m sure she’ll succeed where she is. I’m glad my comments were helpful to you. </p>
<p>Hi melody - I haven’t seen you in ages. Glad to hear that the bio abstract was submitted this morning.</p>
<p>From what I know, people graduated with engineering degrees from Brown have been extremely successful in their careers, whether getting into places like MIT, Stanford, Caltech etc. for grad school (engineering specifically) or getting job offers in unrelated fields such as finance etc.</p>
<p>How can someone sit here and be critical when they don’t even know what Brown offers? We have seven areas of ABET certified Sc.B. in the oldest undergraduate, and third oldest period, engineering program in the country.</p>
<p>As for “need”, it’s not a need thing-- 78% of Brown students get a degree past undergrad within ten years (class of 1994-2004). Brown students tend to go to graduate school for many, many reasons none of which have to do with difficulty finding jobs (only 35% go to grad school straight out).</p>
<p>I saw many people with engineering degrees at Brown going into research, getting NIH post positions, entering top engineering grad schools, or even going into industries including those fin. corporations, which isn’t related to engineering –> just to prove that people w/ brown’s engineering degrees can do various things, and it doesn’t have to be solely engineering. And also Brown’s engine program is ABET credited.</p>
<p>forthe OP, since I do interview engineers at a science oriented company, I will give you some insight into what goes through our minds when we evaluate a young engineer. If you had the scenario of a Ga Tech engineer or a Brown engineer, and both candidates came off well in the interview, had good grades and active at school…the Ga Tech engineer would be hired most of the time.</p>
<p>Why? As an employer, a young engineer is actually a burden in the first 3 to 5 years, he is learning more from the company than what he is contributing. The Brown (or name any ivy league school) engineer would be percieved as someone that probably would be going back to get his MBA later, back to grad school, or wants to get into managment or marketing asap. The Ga Tech engineer would be viewed as more dedicated to applying his engineers skills, not looking to get this ticket stamped.</p>
<p>Where I work, we are very sensitive that we want the person to be there 5 years from now, and maybe the Brown engineer would be viewed as being too ambitious (which is fine) and would not stay with the company.</p>
<p>Brown isn’t the worst in engineering in the ivies- it’s tied with Dartmouth apparently. </p>
<p>Rank
54 Brown University Providence, RI
54 Dartmouth College (Thayer) Hanover, NH
54 Drexel University Philadelphia, PA
54 University at Buffalo–SUNY Buffalo, NY
58 Michigan State University East Lansing, MI
58 University of Iowa Iowa City, IA
60 Northeastern University Boston, MA
60 SUNY–Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY
62 Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO
62 New Mexico State University Las Cruces, NM
62 University of California–Riverside (Bourns) Riverside, CA
62 University of Dayton Dayton, OH</p>
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