<p>Hey I heard that it's easier for female applicants to get into engineering colleges, not only SEAS at Columbia but also at other Ivys like Cornell, etc.</p>
<p>Is this true? or just a rumor?</p>
<p>anyone?
people who have gotten into an ivy league engineering school?</p>
<p>i know that MIT is getting lots of complaints from the male students about being like no girls there, so it will be easier to get in there. dunno bout others</p>
<p>I've heard the same thing and I think it makes sense. There have been active efforts (not necessarily by colleges) to get more women involved in the sciences. </p>
<p>btw, starting a second thread on this won't help get you any more responses...</p>
<p>I think there's some truth to this. But do you want to do engineering?</p>
<p>Columbia dislikes people using SEAS as a backdoor into the college, and so makes it difficult to transfer once you're there. There is a post on another thread about a student who wants to go to law school but has a low gpa because he's in engineering and can't switch into poli sci because it's a Columbia College major and he's in SEAS.</p>
<p>I just wanted to second what sac said to reemphasize that point. It is very hard to transfer from SEAS to CC, and if you have little interest in engineering, you won't be very happy for the next four years.</p>
<p>well the columbia engineering program is great as a sort of pre-med program isn't it? I want to go into medicine so I applied for biomedical engineering at Columbia and Cornell...</p>
<p>You can major in anything, including humanities, and do pre-med, as long as you also take some of the basic pre-med courses. Biomedical engineering is a great field, though might be a little hard on the gpa. </p>
<p>You can change majors within SEAS more easily than you can change colleges within the university. I don't know about Cornell, but maybe there it's easier to transfer out of engineering if that's what you decide after a semester or two.</p>
<p>Yes, it is no secret that all science and engineering programs have a sort of "affirmative action" for women. It isn't just because the guys want more girls. SEAS is no different.</p>
<p>Sac, the "impossible to transfer from SEAS to CC" thing is a myth.</p>
<p>It's not impossible, but it's not easier either because you already attend Columbia. 5-10% of the transfer pool are usually admitted.</p>
<p>And apparently it's not allowed after sophomore year according to another thread on here.</p>
<p>whoa really? oh well biomed engineering pretty much fulfills all the pre-med reqs right?</p>
<p>is it that harsh on the GPA?</p>
<p>jzmagic, well last few years MIT accepted almost same amount of guys and girls. (like 49/51 ratio) so I'm sure there girls aren't that rare at MIT.</p>
<p>j. canada, I think its quite common for engineering majors to be hard on gpa compared to humanities majors, but then again how well you do is always depend on you. how much interest you have will be a factor so choose wisely.</p>
<p>Phantom--Any support for the proposition that 5% of SEAS-->CC transfers are accepted? I still contend this is a myth. My anecdotal evidence totally suggests otherwise.</p>
<p>Sac--I've never heard of the no interschool transfers after soph. year rule, but it would make sense. If it is an actual rule, it is likely a pragmatic rule rather than a matter of formalism. If you transfer to CC in the middle of your junior year, there's no way you can do the CC Core and a CC major in 3 semesters.</p>
<p>JCanada--The BME program does fill all of the premed requirements (technically you have to take one semester of English depending on what you take for your humanities). It is harder on the GPA than majoring in a liberal arts, but isn't one of the most deflated majors.</p>
<p>yes, it is easier for a female to get into an engineering program simply because colleges want, ideally, 50/50 in the major so they will probably lower their stuff a tad to get more girls in.</p>
<p>All I'm basing that on is the FAQ on the Columbia admissions site:</p>
<ol>
<li>May I transfer from Columbia College to The Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science (or vice-versa) once accepted and enrolled?
If you are accepted to one of Columbias undergraduate schools and genuinely feel that you should attend the other, you may submit an Application for Transfer Admission to the Office of Undergraduate Admissions. However, you will be competing with other transfer applicants (from many other colleges), and current Columbia students are not guaranteed or given automatic preference in the transfer admission process. We strongly recommend that prospective Columbia applicants consider thoroughly which undergraduate school is more appropriate for their interests and aspirations.</li>
</ol>
<p>On another part of the site, it states they usually accept anywhere from 5 to 10% of transfers.</p>
<p>I suppose rereading their answer, it is a little vague: "not guaranteed or given automatic preference in the transfer admission process." But this is the official answer.</p>
<p>Official answers are always vague and say absolutely nothing.</p>
<p>what would you say my chances of getting into Columbia SEAS RD are? </p>
<p>(my stats are here: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=136155%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=136155</a>)</p>
<p>hey j.canada....
to answer ur first question, yes it is certainly easier for a girl to get into SEAS....
to answer your other questions (btw, i'm a BME premed in my junior yr)....
BME will destroy your GPA...mine would be at least 0.2 higher if i was in the college majoring in bio...its something to consider....i looked at your stats, and i dont know if SEAS will be too thrilled that you opted to take Math IC for SAT II and Math SL. Most engineers take Math IIC. I was in a similar boat coming out of HS, I mean of course cut all your activities in half (i actually played volleyball too)....but I did take full IB (Math HL, Bio HL, History HL, English SL, Chem SL, Arabic SL) and my SAT scores (on the old system of course) were similar to yours, except for verbal which i bombed (610), but at SEAS they dont care. Anyway, as for your chances, i think they'r good, you shouldnt be too worried...but you should really think whether you wanna go through the engineering curriculum...its alot of physics and math, and if you arent good at that you'll find yourself struggling.
As for the BME premed aspect....almost half of BMEs r premed. BME USED TO FILL ALL THE PREMED REQUIREMENTS except for physics lab but DOES NOT ANYMORE!! If you take a quick look at the BME bulletin and scroll down to "2008 or later" you will find that you'll be missing orgo II, orgo lab, and physics lab....instead you'll be taking such gems as "mechanics". Luckily, my class (2007) was the last to go by the old courses, so all i had to take extra was physics lab. Also if your not a physics person like me, your GPA will be lowered the first three semesters because of 1400 physics, which is harder than the "premed" (1200) physics that all other premeds can take. When you are looking into med schools you'll see that GPAs r going crazy now and my 3.6 is on the low end of the scale for most top tier schools.
Hope this helps, and i hope this hasnt discouraged you from chosing columbia if they chose you (especially if you're cute :-P j/k)</p>
<p>haha wow thanks a lot!! That was really helpful! Oh so that means I would have to take additional courses if I wanted to continue into medical school...which would mean a heavier course load...which would probably mean a lower GPA...oh no!</p>
<p>My school doesn't offer Math HL or else I would have taken it. As for my SAT II, I'm taking Math IIC in January but I don't think Columbia accepts January SAT scores...:(</p>