Engineering or Sciences?

<p>From what I've heard, Rice is basically known as an engineering school. So my question is, would it be slightly easier to get into Arts & Sciences than Engineering? And therefore a better idea to apply Arts & Sciences, then transfer post-admission?</p>

<p>It'd also be very helpful if someone had admissions statistics for each college. Thanks in advance!</p>

<p>Rice doesn’t admit by school, to my knowledge - so it wouldn’t make a difference. Also, they give out full tuition engineering merit scholarships, so you could miss out on those if you put arts&sciences with the intention of getting in more easily.</p>

<p>Thanks for the help, really helped me out! I’ll definitely apply engineering in that case.</p>

<p>silentsailor is correct. With the exception of the Music and Architecture school, Rice does not admit you into a specific major</p>

<p>There also really isn’t anything like having to transfer schools like some colleges require. If you wake up one morning and decide you want to switch from Bioc to CivE, you can just take the right classes and do it.</p>

<p>To add, you do not need to declare a major until second semester sophomore year. (You can still change after that as well) </p>

<p>The system is very flexible.</p>

<p>i don’t think rice is known as an engineering school; a good science school may be.</p>

<p>itsme123 - I hope you are joking.</p>

<p>With all due respect, please do some research before making comments with little factual basis.</p>

<p>To help you out, please see this [Rice</a> receives top rankings once more - News](<a href=“http://media.www.ricethresher.org/media/storage/paper1290/news/2010/08/20/News/Rice-Receives.Top.Rankings.Once.More-3924736.shtml]Rice”>http://media.www.ricethresher.org/media/storage/paper1290/news/2010/08/20/News/Rice-Receives.Top.Rankings.Once.More-3924736.shtml)</p>

<p>rice is strong in engineering is like saying that vanderbilt is and northwestern is and duke is. they are all good schools, but in an overall way. engineering, is not their claim to fame. there are engineering programs in each that may be well-regarded, but these schools are not engineering meccas like mit, stan, cal, ga tech, ill, even mich and pudue</p>

<p>I think it’s time to put some facts in perspectives … In my opinion itsme is right and Antarius is not really wrong, either.</p>

<p>Checking the USNews-rankings, Rice is only listed in Biomed Eng. in the top ten (#6). Other schools (most of the ones itsme mentions) are ranked in the top ten in multiple different disciplines, making them more famous for engineering. </p>

<p>I am not sure, but I believe Rice is ranked overall probably in the top 30-40 schools for ‘Engineering in general’. </p>

<p>What is the ambition of ImThatGuy? If his plan is to study at a top ten school, then Rice is only good for Biomed. Eng. </p>

<p>Personally, I saw Rice always as a top medical school and a good science school with good engineering, too (remember: good <> top) - whereby certain courses can be top (e.g. Biomed)</p>

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With all due respect, please learn more about Rice before judging students that attend Rice. There are many flaws/misinformation in your argument.</p>

<h1>1. The use of USNews. This is probably the worse source you can point to and make your argument. Why? USNews is BIAS, their methodology is peer review, acceptance rate, yield, yeah not a good way to rank schools. It has been criticized by college counselors, students, parents etc… using USNews is very weak</h1>

<p>Also, Rice is not a place to just to study Biomed Engineering. Rice was ranked #1 in the country for Material Science. And no this is not some flawed ranking based on peer review, this is based on research outputs. The research publication output by Rice was had 31.36 citations per paper. In other words, Rice easily beat Harvard, which published many more papers but ranked second at 27.63. So yeah, Rice’s engineering research is very extensive and amazing. </p>

<h1>2. Rice DOES NOT HAVE A MEDICAL SCHOOL! Seriously, this really just showed that your argument lacks credibility. Please do your research on Rice before denouncing Rice students.</h1>

<p>In my opinion, Rice is a very good engineering school. Some department/area may be ranked higher, may even be in the top 10. But overall, I would rank Rice as one of the top 20 engineering schools in the nation. It does not matter how you want to slice this - peer survey, research citations etc. In any one of these lists Rice should be on the top 20, if not I would even go to the extent that the list is flawed. In my opinion, overall Rice program in the second half of the top 20 rankings along with say USC, University of Wisconsin – Madison, and I would even put Columbia in this groupings. Top 10 typically tend to be schools like MIT, Stanford, Cal Tech, and state schools like Purdue, University of Illinois, Ga Tech. </p>

<p>Where Rice really stands out are three great aspects that are very unique and you can’t beat. 1) Nice small friendly university college system that this campus offers which is truly great. 2) Great undergraduate research opportunity, with very small student to faculty ratio with renowned mentorship that these faculty provides . 3) Great location, the museum district of the Houston is just too lovely a suburban feel.</p>

<p>itsme123,</p>

<p>Northwestern’s engineering is stronger than Vandy and Duke. It got top-5 programs in material science & industrial engineering. Actually, according to the new NRC rankings, it’s #7 if you average those 95 R or S scores. It’s not MIT but it’s not Vandy either.</p>

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<p>From the article posted above:</p>

<p>For schools whose highest degree is a doctorate, Rice’s George R. Brown School of Engineering tied for 19th with University of California at Los Angeles and University of Maryland at College Park</p>

<p>^i woudl admit that northwestern is better than rice for engineering in an overall sense, but the point i was making is that they both are different from the other engineering elites i have listed, which most will concur (and this link supports it).</p>

<p>[ARWU</a> FIELD 2010 Engineering/Technology and Computer Sciences](<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/FieldENG2010.jsp]ARWU”>http://www.arwu.org/FieldENG2010.jsp)</p>

<p>I guess the real question is this, what is the point of these statements?</p>

<p>No one here is trying to say that Rice is better than MIT in Engineering.</p>