Engineering tiers in terms of employment/grad school

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<p>Through my research it seems like engineering schools are categorized in terms of employment/grad school, NOT academic rigor. Correct me if im wrong but i think it looks something like this:</p>

<p>Tier 1: MIT, Caltech, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Cooper Union, Olin, </p>

<p>Tier 2: Rose Hulman, RPI, UPenn, Columbia, Northwestern, UMich, UIllinois, Georgia Tech, and most other flagship state unis</p>

<p>Tier 3: all other ABET credited schools</p>

<p>Of course if you are a star at any engineering school, you have all the opportunity in the world to work anywhere or go to grad school anywhere. The reason i put Georgia Tech, Michigan, and Illinois out of Tier 1 is that although it may have top tier academics, it is still a public school and does not provide the networks that private schools do. Despite this, i am really happy that engineering is performance based despite what school you go to unlike many other careers.</p>

<p>Again, im just a high schooler so correct me if im wrong.</p>

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<p>GT and UIUC definitely are top tier… I don’t know how you could say some of those schools are better than either of them. UIUC is at the top in electrical and computer eng., GT has very good industrial and aerospace engineering programs, top ranked as well. Those are just the fields that I’m immediately aware of…</p>

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<p>UMich is also a top-rated program too. Even if it is public, it has a huge alumni base so I would expect connections are just as good as any private.</p>

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<p>Why would a smaller private school give you a better network than a huge but extremely reputable public school? If you’re looking for a job in engineering are you more likely to run in to a Cornell grad or a Georgia Tech grad?</p>

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<p>Tier 1 should be: MIT, CalTech, Stanford, Berkeley, Michigan, GA Tech, UIUC</p>

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<p>And what is the point of ranking anyway?</p>

<p>For quite a while, I worked side by side with a guy that had a PhD from Caltech. We did essentially the same job.</p>

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<p>Wouldn’t Rice be in a tier? Or is it not primarily known for its engineering?</p>

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<p>Trying to put the schools in tiers is futile though. Each school has advantages over the others. Some might have a great Aerospace program and if you’re going there for Aerospace why would you care that their Computer Science program isn’t very good?</p>

<p>Yes, I know that we’re engineers and we’d love to be able to say x>y, but this is a case where not only do we not need to, there’s honestly no reason to even begin. Different schools offer different opportunities, and they really have to be examined at the individual level, by the individual, to even begin to make any judgment about them.</p>

<p>It’s really one of the many reasons I hate the rankings they put out. If a school jumps from 45 to 40 does that mean that this year they’ve suddenly become better than the schools they jumped? Would someone really make a decision as to where to attend because a school is ranked 11th and they want to go to a top 10 school? Why? And then you run into BS like what Clemson (I THINK that was the school that told it’s faculty to give bad reviews to other schools to boost their own ranking) pulled…</p>

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<p>I don’t mind the rankings, but keep in mind…</p>

<p>This is not the Accounting/Finance/Marketing industry where the first thing asked is “What was your B-School?” since there are 100 graduates applying for 33 jobs.</p>

<p>This is engineering where for every 100 jobs, there are only 33 available candidates.</p>

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<p>Oh to have graduated half a decade ago…</p>

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<p>“Oh to have graduated half a decade ago…”</p>

<p>[Dice.com</a> - Job Search for Technology Professionals](<a href=“http://www.dice.com%5DDice.com”>http://www.dice.com)</p>

<p>First Box…enter “database”
Second Box…enter “20201”</p>

<p>When you get tired of that list…</p>

<p>First Box…enter “systems engineer”
Second Box…enter “20201”</p>

<p>Try not to stay up all night reading</p>

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<p>Add Harvey Mudd to your top box.</p>

<h1>2 in salary, just shy of MIT</h1>

<h1>2 in PhD productivity, behind Caltech</h1>

<p>SOURCES
Salary:
[Best</a> Engineering Colleges By Salary Potential](<a href=“http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/best-engineering-colleges.asp]Best”>http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/best-engineering-colleges.asp)</p>

<p>Page 6 for PhD productivity:
<a href=“http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf08311/nsf08311.pdf[/url]”>http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf08311/nsf08311.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>^ Very happy to see my school at #7 :)</p>

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<p>hmm very interesting to see NYU-Poly is on that Top 10 salary potential list. I didnt know it was known for engineering?</p>

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<p>Top salary is a terrible way to measure a school. Yes a good school will make, in general, slightly more money for its grads, but it is also largely regional. CalTech, for example, gets helped by the fact that a lot of the graduates live in California where cost of living is very high, and thus so are salaries. Conversely, Michigan grads would be more likely to live in Michigan where salaries are lower due to lower cost of living.</p>

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<p>Those rankings also don’t include people who go to graduate school</p>

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<p>Word. Even so, a Poly education is nothing to scoff at. Truuuuust me lol</p>

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<p>bone - How do you explain City College, Cooper Union, Columbia, and Manhattan not on the list? And a school can never be measured using one method. It all depends.</p>

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<p>Princeton Engineering definitely ranks up there in terms of PhD + Grad School</p>

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<p>Are you serious or ■■■■■■■■? Where are you getting your info from?</p>