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<p>can you take poetry, fiction, and translation/???? or is there not enough time. lol.</p>

<p>P.S. I'm a "she", not a "he". lol.</p>

<p>Classes are offered each semester, and there are three levels (so basically three semesters) plus an advanced seminar/theses level or whatever. So yeah, there's plenty of time :)</p>

<p>You'll need four CWR courses (usually two 200-level, two 300-level) to do a creative thesis. You'll also need "strong" (their word) recommendations from your instructors for the thesis and to go from 200 to 300 level.</p>

<p>My 201 class next semester will have 7 people. :)</p>

<p>I don't believe it's cutthroat to get into those courses. Also, aren't many of them required to be taken pass-fail? A definite plus for the creative process.</p>

<p>armavirumque - are the classes very strict about the material you write about? I mean, if you're a fantasy writer, will you have to stick to real-world stuff?</p>

<p>They're all pass-D-fail courses, but they don't count against your 4 PDFs limit. I haven't taken a CWR course yet, so I don't know how strict they are. I can't write fiction for the life of me, so I wouldn't know how they do things, but if poetry is anything to go by, the 200-level courses might set weekly or biweekly assignments with some restrictions. That's one of the things I'm concerned about, actually. This article sums it up pretty well: <a href="http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/16915%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/16915&lt;/a>
(It's a bit long, but worth the read.)</p>

<p>wow. that article was fascinating!</p>

<p>Makes sense to do pass-d-fail, since it's more about effort...hard to grade objectively on creative things...</p>

<p>Sorry, AJPicardi, for mistaking you for a he. It was a wild guess; I had 50% of being right :p</p>

<p>You'll pass if you show up every week with <em>something</em> (that's official policy). I don't think it's so much a matter of grading objectively as not hurting feelings; a grade in a creative writing course would also be difficult to defend against challenges, especially if the challenger presses the right buttons like "diversity" and "right to expression" and whatnot. ("But is it art?") I suppose that's why they put in the "strong recommendation" requirement for progression.</p>

<p>Making the courses pass-D-fail keeps the focus on the creative process rather than on the curved grade.</p>

<p>Are creative writing majors' senior theses graded pass-d-fail too?</p>

<p>(Ah, the much-lauded creative process. This not being the best place for such a discussion, I think I'll just agree to disagree without being too disagreable.)</p>

<p>I don't think theses are ever PDF, though creative writing is a "program" (sort of minor; that is, you can't major in it, and you'll need a separate thesis for your home department) and not a major, so there might be differences.</p>

<p>So people in the cw program who say, write a book, have to also write a thesis in another department?</p>

<p>I thought the UA or some other academic source said that with the permission of your home department, you can write a creative thesis in your concentration instead of two theses. Not always possible, but it's been done before.</p>

<p>There was a well-known case two years (I think) ago where someone wrote one (creative) thesis for both molbio and CW.</p>

<p>Science fiction? :p</p>