Enlisted to USNA

<p>I note that fergonfire is one of the enlisted sailors going to be in the class of 2010 - awesome! I am wondering how many of the midshipmen are from the enlisted ranks?<br>
Washington Post article on Nick Schmitz, salutarian this year & Rhodes scholar (<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052301623.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052301623.html&lt;/a&gt;) - dropped out of HS and joined the Marines - then on to USNA. Have heard that about 20 percent at USNA were enlisted personnel - any real numbers?</p>

<p>After reading the posts of many who did not get accepted this year and plan on reapplying and reapplying, I wonder if this may be another route?</p>

<p>Previous enlisted members of the Brigade account from 6.3 to 10.3 percent. </p>

<p>Class of 2009 had 76 members; Class of 2006 had 125...</p>

<p>So it can vary, but typically 90-110 are usually selected.</p>

<p>Any idea how many of the enlistees came via NASS?<br>
Or any idea of how many came from other colleges?
I know we are slicing & dicing here for the edification of future applicantsk but I am always struck by how many "older" students there are, NOT right out of HS.</p>

<p>Check out <a href="http://www.usna.org%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usna.org&lt;/a> and select plebe corner (top right), then click on class profiles to see.</p>

<p>Thanks - good numbers posted there.<br>
Class of 2009:
The Class of 2009 includes 33.3% percent (406) from college and post-high school preparatory programs which include:</p>

<p>229 from Naval Academy Preparatory School (NAPS) in Newport, RI
16 from Nuclear Power School Program in Goose Creek, SC (5 having previously attended college).
80 from US Naval Academy Foundation Program (66 from preparatory schools and 14 from colleges under Foundation sponsorship).
81 additional students have completed at least six months of study at a college or university (76) or a private preparatory school (5). </p>

<p>Military Background:
The Class of 2009 includes 76 midshipmen who previously served as enlisted members of the Navy (62) or Marine Corps (14).
This figure includes 11 who entered directly from Fleet Service (6 USN and 5 USMC), 16 USN from Nuclear Power School and 49 from NAPS (40 USN, 9 USMC).</p>

<p>Woah woah woah, lets get things straight here. There are not 10% enlisted in the academy. Those that go to NAPS are not enlisted. Although they do enlist, it is not the same concept. All NPS students have not seen the fleet and have only seen boot camp and school. I know, I went through it. Actual fleet sailors average 10-15 a year. So truely, there are only 10-15 true enlisted personnel each year. I will give nukes a better pull towards being enlisted as they have gone through boot camp and what not and that is an accomplishment in itself. However any NAPS only or foundation "enlisted" are not among our ranks. If you include my nuclear brethren there are on average 40 enlisted. However only 10 or so a year of us have seen action.</p>

<p>I really wish it was more, frankly.</p>

<p>My squad leader at NASS was enlisted for about 3 years, then went to NAPS and then the Academy. I think that it's BOTH straight from high school and prior enlisted. That's what my squad leader told me, and the last time I visited NAPS for a football game that's what the NAPSters told me.</p>

<p>Yes NAPS has both prior enlisted (aka nuke students) and straight from high school kids. However I have never heard of a fleet applicant going to NAPS so still a plausible argument. However there are still less than 50 on average per year true enlisted and less than 15 per year on average with fleet experience.</p>

<p>There are prior-enlisted sailors and Marines at NAPS. Not all of them are nukes. In fact, in my day most of them were NOT nukes.</p>

<p>My enlisted son is going to be in the next NAPS class and he inquired regarding the number of other priors and was told there will be 60 enlisted in the 2007 class</p>

<p>I think he meant no fleet members going to NASS...a one-letter typo.</p>

<p>tttdz what does your son do?</p>

<p>He has been in the Navy for almost 2 years (anniversary is a couple of days before he reports to NAPS), and currently stationed at Jax Air Station where he is a plane captain. By the way, we are from your neck of the woods - Vancouver, WA</p>

<p>well tell your son congratulations. It is not often that I hear of an airdale getting such wonderful accomplishments. Vancouver is a nice area, close to portland as well which is a wonderful city. Does your son have his air warfare or surface warfare? I look forward to having another fleet sailor there with me in the next few years.</p>

<p>um....there are tons of priors at the academy. they even had theyre own radio station, "dirty prior radio", until they got shut down for...are we surprised... crude and lewd language on the air, overheard by an officer. my youngster across the hall is called "grandpa" because he's so old (and he was salty as well).</p>

<p>I am a prior Marine at NAPS now. There are 7 Marines, and close the 30 sailors, about half of which are Nukes</p>

<p>Haha… I like the take on all of this. There are plenty of Marines and Sailors at NAPS that are prior-enlisted. HOW prior is the key… since the age limit is 23, most priors don’t have THAT much of an extensive enlisted background.</p>

<p>I’m enlisted in the Navy right now, a Doc (Hospital Corpsman) stationed with Marines in Camp Lejeune, NC (Very cynical of this place… ahah). I’ve been through all of my schooling and have been in the fleet for over a year now… got accepted directly to USNA and will be joining the Class of 2013.</p>

<p>When I read the Class of 2012 Profile, It stated there were around 15 Marines and Sailors attending that transferred directly from the fleet without the use of NAPS, which does confirm that most enlisted come from the Prep school, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that NAPS priors haven’t been in the fleet either.</p>

<p>And while it’s a possibility to use the Enlisted side as a stepping stone to get to USNA (That’s what I did), it’s not a guaranteed thing, and might pose too many risks for the average applicant. Going enlisted and being stuck in a rate without the opportunity to use an Officer program would truly be a disappointment… I’d have to say the most swift kick in the nuts around.</p>

<p>Quite hilarious it is that they actually had an Enlisted radio station at USNA… I can totally understand it being shut down. Most enlisted aren’t really the group that cares too much about “Offending” someone. Profanity runs rampant amongst our ranks, but in a good way! :slight_smile: (At least at a “Green” side command… Marines just don’t give a ****).</p>

<p>hey I had a question i too want to go to naval and am enlisting into the Navy i am emancipated and am enlisting at the age of 17 which i just turned. I would like to go into aviation. I was wondering maybe the route you took while enlisted to get admissions to the academy or even NAPS. I am smart and had good grades all throughout high school, 3.75 gpa as overall. I also have 17 college units at my local jr. College. If you could just explain maybe the route you took. I go down to meps on tuesday to get a job/ everything lined up and a date. Any additions would be appreciated on how you went about. thanks.</p>

<p>Sounds like you have the right stuff! Others’ll have to provide information re: your specific questions, but I know that you’ll need to sorely impress your COs in your enlisted roles. I believe there is some testing that goes on. It is doable, even with ever-shrinking numbers of appointments coming from this pool. Do your best and trust that’ll be sufficient.</p>