<p>okay, so duke just started an environmental engineering degree program!!!!
but the downside is that its not ABET accredited (yet at least)...</p>
<p>my ideal job after undergrad would be something either on field or consulting... do most of these jobs need the (pe) license??? im international btw..</p>
<p>also, if i do decide to pursue Grad education, it will probably be industrial engineering or similar...like management engineering or something......</p>
<p>if THAT grad program is ABET recognized, then would a non accredited undergrad be overlooked and will i be able to get the PE licence?</p>
<p>Lastly, should i even bother going to such a new program even if it is at duke?? the program was announced in April 2013 so im guessing the fall 2014 class will be the first one admitted...</p>
<p>A couple things: </p>
<p>Most masters are not ABET accredited. Mostly just undergrad is. Also, depending on the state, you still should be able to get PE if you did undergrad engineering in general. Another bit of info: Duke is not highly ranked in engineering, btw. They don’t even have a full program.</p>
<p>could you please elaborate on what u mean by “full program”?</p>
<p>What I mean by that is they don’t have the full gambit of engineering programs. For example, they don’t even have a ChemE department. It is your choice though. I just wanted to put it out there that the mainstream rankings do not also carry over to the engineering rankings.</p>
<p>Go to duke, because no one cares about you major or gpa or research experience or internships/reus, only the name of the college you went to.</p>
<p>Hmmm…well I don’t mind tht Duke doesn’t have more engineering majors coz i pretty much know exactly what I want…that being said, I still do want a good education that will help me land a job where im good at what I do.</p>
<p>I don’t care much about rankings and all…my first choice was actually WPI but the reason I’m applying to Duke is coz of financial aid. I think I have better chances of getting the amount I want from Duke plus their campus is really nice!! International student here btw…</p>
<p>More answers on my original question will be much appreciated!!</p>
<p>Dukes campus is nice, but the city it is in, Durham, is horrible. But…I went to UNC Chapel Hill for my undergrad (8 miles away, biggest rivals in the NCAA), so I may be a bit biased. But really, Durham stinks, so if you go, live outside of Durham.</p>
<p>thx for the info! but since i plan on living on campus for all 4 years which is in durham so i cant really do anything about it lol</p>
<p>Bump!!! My original questions r still somewhat unanswered!!!</p>
<p>What are the license requirements in your home country?</p>
<p>I’m not a big fan of the environmental engineering degree; why not major in civil and take environmental electives as a concentration? A new, unaccredited program is not a big deal iff the university intends to seek ABET accreditation since the first degrees will be accredited retroactively. If not, I would not go with that program since licensing is important in this field.</p>
<p>BTW, Durham is not as bad as it used to be.</p>
<p>Note UNC chapel Hill isn’t exactly know for it’s engineering either.</p>
<p>Haha, That would be because it doesn’t have an engineering school. </p>
<p>The reference to UNC was because: 1) We (UNC and Duke) are very close to each other, so we know a lot of each other, and 2) We are ridiculous rivals and so everything bad in our vocabulary is usually and adjective for Dook.</p>
<p>Not because of their engineering (lack of) school.</p>
<p>I go to NC States Engineering school btw, also very close by.</p>
<p>@noimagination - i dont think civil is my thing…i love environmental but will probably not be looking for typical jobs in it…im thinking of double majoring in environmental engineering and economics…and mastering in industrial or management sciences…</p>
<p>i was born and raised in Dubai but i dont plan on returning back for a few years (atleast 10)…ill ideally be looking to get a job in either USA itself or europe (i love poland!!)</p>
<p>do you have any idea on how long it takes for a new program to get ABET accredited?</p>
<p>You would have to ask Duke whether they plan to seek ABET accreditation for this program. If so, the first students will need to graduate before this goes into effect, retroactively for those first grads.</p>
<p>If you don’t want to work as an engineer, ABET accreditation probably doesn’t matter. This is not a bad major for graduate work in operations research / management science, though EE or math might be more relevant. If you “love environmental” why not look for typical jobs in that field?</p>
<p>i wouldn’t mind a typical job in environmental, but my long term choice would eventually be to handle the business aspect of environmental projects…</p>
<p>additionally, after you suggested Civil with an environmental track…i checked it out on the Duke website and compared the course sequence of both the environmental engineering degree and civil engineering with an environmental concentration… surprisingly, both degree have the exact SAME courses!!! :s which is very confusing…</p>
<p>[EnvE</a> Degree Planning (BSE) | Duke Civil and Environmental Engineering](<a href=“http://www.cee.duke.edu/undergrad/bse-enve-degree-planning]EnvE”>Environmental Engineering Degree Planning (BSE) | Duke Civil and Environmental Engineering)</p>
<p>[CE</a> Degree Planning (BSE) | Duke Civil and Environmental Engineering](<a href=“http://www.cee.duke.edu/undergrad/bse-ce-degree-planning]CE”>Civil Engineering Degree Planning (BSE) | Duke Civil and Environmental Engineering)</p>
<p>if it in fact is as similar as it looks like.then perhaps ill probably just go with the civil degree with an environmental concentration… thankfully at duke students declare their major after the first year so if i do end up there ill have more time to consider the 2 degrees… </p>
<p>thx for the replies!!</p>
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This is correct. The first year should be mostly fundamental science courses common to all engineering disciplines. You have time to figure this out.</p>
<p>(I’m assuming you have admissions + financial safeties on your list too, of course!)</p>
<p>haha…im an international student who needs almost 100% aid…sadly there arent any safeties for us in (usa) that is…but i do have some tentative back up plans in case this falls through…hopefully i wont have to use em…</p>