<p>Well recently I’ve been thinking, and I was wondering if I decide to move to Pennsylvania for the next four years, is it possible for me to get in state tuition after a year and some change? What I mean is:</p>
<li><p>Rent an Apartment in my name from like May till next school year (not the 08-09, the 09-10) and then live there my sophmore year. That will be then a year and four months then, which, in California I believe it’s more than enough.</p></li>
<li><p>Would I have to put it in my name or my mother’s? I would be moving, I doubt my mom would but since she’s still helping pay for college am I gonna be considered a dependent and a resident of where SHE stays?</p></li>
<li><p>If this is the case, this could also affect my financial aid for this year right?</p></li>
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<p>I’m pretty sure I want to go to penn state if not USC over my other schools, so I wanna start researching this now and if its possible get this place by like May even if I only do have to live there for like 366 days, I still want to see the apartment and all I’m going to have to live in.</p>
<p>It is extremely hard to be considered a resident of any state for tuition purposes when you are under 24 and at least partially supported by parents in another state. Read the Penn State rules for instate tuition. Think of it from the point of view of Pennsylvania taxpayers; they want the tuition break to go to those with a vested interest in the state, because they pay income tax there, property tax there, live there, vote there, or went to high school there. A lot of out of state undergraduate students rent off campus apartments at every state university, but that does not allow them to receive in state tuition, no matter whose name the apartment is in. Because the difference between in and out of state tuition is often considerable, colleges will be very diligent about reviewing claims of residency change.</p>
<p>State's vary as to what is allowed but typically if you are out of state when you start college: (a) you are presumed to be a resident of where your parents are regardless of how long you spend in college; (b) you need continuous residency for a year during which you live in the state, your parents are no longer supporting you in college or otherwise and you can prove that, you have other indicia of residency such as a job, renting, voters card, driver's license; and (c) none of that time actually spent in college is counted toward that one year. For some states it may be easier than that, for some even more difficult.</p>
<p>Wait so if I actually plan to live there and all, I have to pay OOS tuition but once I graduate I'll en up paying the taxes, income taxes, etc? That sucks .</p>
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<p>if I decide to move to Pennsylvania for the next four years, is it possible for me to get in state tuition after a year and some change? >></p>
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<p>NO!!</p>
<p>Maybe we need a thread pinned to the top here about this issue. Bottom line...your place of residency for tuition for MOST students is the state where your parents reside. It is very difficult (if not impossible) to establish residency separate from your parents. If you tried to do so...you would have to demonstrate that you were EARNING (that means with a job) ALL of your living expenses including the cost of attending college...with no support or contact at all from your family. </p>
<p>Undergraduate students almost always have the same place of residence as the parents. OH...and in some cases even IF your parents moved...they would have to live in the new state for a year before YOU would be eligible for instate residency.</p>
<p>The state has NO GUARANTEE that after you graduate, you will remain there. However, actual instate residents are currently paying taxes into their system which supports instate higher education costs. Out of staters pay the higher fees.</p>
<p>It is NOT easy...NOT...to gain instate residency for tuition purposes if you do not currently reside in that state. I will add, that most folks posting these questions KNOW where they are instate residents for tuition purposes and are looking for a loophole...there isn't one, nor should there be.</p>
<p>A few of my D's friends have worked to get IS tuition at Mizzou. One of MO's requirements is a certain number of work hours/week, so many weeks/year. Their work schedule has greatly affected their grades, resulting in loss of some scholarships for not maintaining their GPA AND now it looks like all of them will need to add another semester or two to their studies, thus negating all their savings on OOS tuition! In the long run, if it will affect your grades and study, it is just not worth it.</p>
<p>AND your parents lose you as a deduction on their taxes and you lose their HEALTH INSURANCE coverage as you are now independent! Be very careful on ALL the ramifications!!</p>
<p>You need to check into a number of things. Where I am...if my kids are not dependents (meaning that their permanent address is THIS STATE), they cannot be on my health insurance plan, auto insurance plan or homeowners policy. Individual health insurance CAN be purchased through the colleges but it has very limited coverage. </p>
<p>I agree with others...but I still maintain...you usually can NOT establish instate residency easily if you are NOT an instate resident currently.</p>
<p>Now...if you are a high school junior and you can convince your FAMILY to move within the next six months (and I don't mean a vacation home...I mean their permanent residence...jobs etc) to the new state, you'd be all set.</p>
<p>A friend's D moved to NY and worked for a year, renting own apartment, etc. and is now considered a resident for tuition purposes. Would you be willing to take a year off from school?</p>
<p>Well then I guess I won't have to work in philly after I graduate, I've been debating between there, NY and California, but now that neither one has a significant advantage at least I can choose without being bias.</p>
<p>I'm not currently on their health insurance (stepfather just lost his job and has to wait for another plan), and my mom works for a small firm that can only cover her and not me.</p>
<p>Edit: I was thinking about taking a year off if that's what's required, because if so I would get to apply to the UC system.</p>
<p>The UC system does have its own regs. Perhaps someone here can fill you in on those. I'm not sure that merely taking a year off and working and living in CA will qualify you for instate tuition in CA. You need to check to be sure this is true.</p>
<p>I'm amazed more people don't move out to california, attend community college, and then transfer to a UC school for the final two years. My understanding is that going to community college for two years would establish residency, though you'd have to look into that.</p>
<p>I know of one student who wanted to change his residency during his college years. He had taken a job, got an appt and had decided to live there permanently. The state u went so far as to ask him and his mom for bank account records to prove she wasn't supporting him! They eventually changed it and he still lives in that state (married a woman from there).</p>
<p>And as mizzou-mom said, you have to make SURE that you're not being claimed as a dependent on your parents' tax returns. So, even if you are completely self-supporting, if they are still claiming you as a dependent, you would not qualify.</p>
<p>Our spanish tutor went to high school in Penn. Her parents were divorced. Her Dad lived in Ca. He paid child support. She wanted to go to school in Ca. She was not able to get instate tuition.
She moved to Ca. worked supported herself. Went to a community college. Having to pay out of state tuition at the CC. Had to take a few years off. She eventually got became a Ca resident and attended a UC to finish her degree. This all took time. She was able to graduate at age 25.
In her case her parents did not help her at all with school costs.</p>
<p>Do not assume that you will get instate residency simply because your parents no longer declare you on their taxes. That is not the acid test for most instate residency requirements. This is a VERY small piece of the what you really need to do to gain instate status for tuition purposes...assuming your parents LIVE in a different state.</p>
<p>Bottom line...do not assume you can gain instate residency in a state in which your family does not reside. Usually you cannot.</p>
<p>Another thing that is also look at is where the person graduated from high school - this is a good indicator inthat if the person is trying to attain residency in another state - it just may well be for the tuition breaks - and is a red flag also as to what the person is attempting to do. Most states now have pretty strong criteria as to what is looked at to be considered for in-state tuition.</p>
<p>It seems that you must live and work for at least a year in a state as a minimum requirement, if not more requirements- nephew worked during the school year and summer to become a WA resident- he is still there after graduation, lucky him. It was not easy to satisfy the state- you will find all states watch carefully for those just trying to pay less tuition. It's all a matter of where the taxes to support the school come from- if you/your parents have paid the taxes you have supported the school, otherwise you do so through your OOS tuition.</p>
<p>This is an interesting topic to me since I'm going through the process to get in-state residency in New York City too. Can anyone help with my case as below?
I've been physically staying in NYC under a sublet apt., and working part-time for a company in NY for more than 1 year. But, my part-time income last year was only $7,500 (more than tuition), and my spouse worked in another state and filed tax return in that state (so, he can't help me with the NY residency). I was wondering if I am qualified to claim NY residency yet. And, is there any minimum NY income to earn to get that benefit.</p>