Everyone loves PLME at Brown...

<p>ED to PLME (non-binding to Brown)</p>

<p>Also:
HPME
Rice/Baylor
USC
Mizzou Conley Scholars
SLU
UMKC</p>

<p>4.35 W/3.89 UW
Rank 14/300</p>

<p>SAT: 2220
ACT: 34 (just got it back!!)
SATII math2: 800
chem: 770
bio: 740</p>

<p>research for 2 years, volunteer, shadowing my PI, leadership, musical instrument, sport, honors societies, etc.</p>

<p>non-binding to brown will hurt for your ed
they look down upon that</p>

<p>Good test scores, decent rank, decent gpa, decent/good ECs, </p>

<p>Brown - Reach
Rice/Baylor - Match
USC - High Match</p>

<p>I don't really know those other schools..</p>

<p>poloruler23, yea I figured Brown wouldn't like that, but I'd rather see what med progs I get into and not be bound to Brown</p>

<p>llpitch, thanks for that. the other progs are for MO residents or "contiguous states."</p>

<p>A freidn of mine got into PLME ED while being non-binding to Brown, but her stats were a bit better than yours. Still, not totally impossible.</p>

<p>llpitch, I think Rice/Baylor is just as good if not better than Brown (Baylor is #10 med school in nation), so if I'm reach for Brown...well, it would seem the same or even worse for R/B...</p>

<p>Hey, great ACT and SAT II Math II scores.</p>

<p>You are slightly better than 50-50 to Brown (academic index score of 220--rating is 6 out of 9). Your test scores make up for your slightly less impressive rank (you are in the top 4-5% of your class applying to a school that normally takes only the top 2-3% of a high school class).</p>

<p>Obviously, you are therefore match or better at all the rest--including Rice.</p>

<p>And no offense to Rice, Baylor, or Baylor's medical school, but Brown is more demanding selection-wise.</p>

<p>thanks calcruzer..I know a lot of ppl with good grades and scores apply to Brown, Rice, etc..but it's exciting to know someone knowledgeable like you has calculated my index score or w/e. I like over a 50-50 chance when admission rates are like 10-20%..</p>

<p>Thanks for your kind words.</p>

<p>Well, I was accepted at Brown myself, although I didn't attend there. Since I've never posted my own stats before, I'm going to do so for the first time (after 2,000 posts I guess I can do so once).</p>

<p>My own stats were 3.96 UW GPA (4.0 when I applied) with 5 AP courses, four college courses (4.0 UW GPA), president of two clubs--one a national service club, work on a local school board election (my candidate won and wrote one of my recommendations), two SAT II 800 math scores (I applied as a math major), plus 720 on USH, and 700 on Chemistry, but only a 650 SAT CR score (my weakness). and a 770 on the SAT I Math.</p>

<p>I think what got me in was that I tied for first place in two LA area math competitions. Amazingly, the guy (Doug) who tied with me in these math competitions was the same person both times and we both went to the same high school (and were close friends). He ended up going to Caltech after getting four, yes four, SAT I and II 800 scores!</p>

<p>lol nice stuff dude (well, you don't sound like a girl)...what deterred you from Brown and what are my chances for PLME specifically...
thanks</p>

<p>The reasons I didn't go to Brown were all money-related (little to no merit money available at that time) and the fact that I had a sister also going to college--with another sister soon to be going. Federal financial aid at that time did not take into account family size and the number of children going to college.</p>

<p>Don't worry--I've done okay anyway--although I've always wondered what it would have been like to go to Brown and how my life would have been different (and I've visited the college twice since then--including once with my son).</p>

<p>P.S. And yes, I'm a guy.</p>

<p>Not to discourage you, but I applied to HPME and PLME this year with higher SAT, rank, GPA, and SAT 2s than you and I'm rejected by both programs (though I did get into Brown and Northwestern regular).</p>

<p>I have similar ECs too but I'm Asian male and I didn't have any medicine-related ECs <-- I think this was the factor. Oh and I didn't apply ED. I don't know how much that affects it.</p>

<p>Although, good luck! I've heard of good things about both HPME and PLME - they're definitely programs to pursue, if you can.</p>

<p>congrats on MIT though..I think these progs want to see medicine-related ECs b/c if you're deciding on medicine as a career at 17 yrs old, then you should have had decent exposure/experience in that field to make you committed to that field...</p>

<p>Even if Brown see's my sat, i heard colleges take the better score of the two, so hopefully they look at my act. I don't think satIIs are a big deal, as long as you're 750+. My gpa and rank though, can't change that by ED time...</p>

<p>bump.......</p>

<p>chance me guys?</p>

<p>how does the nonbinding thing to brown work?</p>

<p>Since I am applying ED to the medical program, PLME, I want to be bound only to the program and not Brown undergraduate. So, I must be accepted first to Brown and then to PLME, but if I get into Brown only and not PLME, I do not have to attend Brown. If I get into PLME though, I must attend the program, which would be AWESOME...</p>

<p>Some say that applying ED to PLME but non-binding to Brown ruins your chances b/c you are not truly committed to Brown, but I say I am just all the more committed to PLME..</p>

<p>is there a diff app to fill out?</p>

<p>yea, separate app with 3 or so essays, in addition to regular Brownie app...</p>

<p>oh my... thats a lot of essays</p>