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<p>Two wrongs don't make a right. I similarly denounce Israeli acts of aggression. Don't ASSume that I'm just some flag waving Israel supporter. I'm a supporter of human decency and what I believe are human rights.</p>

<p>I also agree that Pakistan is not a terrible example of a country. But let's be honest here: The US's supporting Pakistan further strengthens and helps further entrench the military government. And don't give me this "because they're Muslim crap." ASSumptions are the start of a failed argument.</p>

<p>I agree that the Balfour Declaration was an example of a violation of rights. However, by the logic of Hamas, Native Americans should be attacking the US, Celts should be attacking England, the Ainu should be attacking Japan, and the Tibetans should be violently attacking China.</p>

<p>Violence should be the last option. Not because I'm some pansy hippie against violence, but because violence is a difficult tool to use properly. Although I can't necessarily justify Palestinian actions in Israel, their attacks have some logic attached to them. The Palestinians do not have a decent military, so they have few other choices. Attacking the IDF doesn't have the psychological effect that attacking a cafe full of civilian men, women, and children does. </p>

<p>However, while violence shows resolve, it can also paint you as an aggressor/criminal in the eyes of the international community. Since the promulgation of a state ultimately lies in the hands of the international community, playing by their rules also makes sense for the struggling insurgency. </p>

<p>But once again, don't try to paint me as the marauding anti-Muslim. I'm half Muslim, you dolt.</p>

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However, while violence shows resolve, it can also paint you as an aggressor/criminal in the eyes of the international community. Since the promulgation of a state ultimately lies in the hands of the international community, playing by their rules also makes sense for the struggling insurgency.

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<p>Do you think the Palestinians care at this point what the International community thinks? The US never helped them, so why should they care if the US resent their actions? They their land taken away, and they have no choice but to get it back. The tiny Gaza strip wont cut it, which is seen through the population density.</p>

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The US's supporting Pakistan further strengthens and helps further entrench the military government.

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<p>By supporting the US, Pakistan does look "good" in the eyes of the international community. But its a bad idea on a domestic scale since the majority of Pakistanis hate the USA. Do you really think Musharaf is respected in the eyes of the majority of Americans?</p>

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However, by the logic of Hamas, Native Americans should be attacking the US, Celts should be attacking England, the Ainu should be attacking Japan, and the Tibetans should be violently attacking China.

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<p>Its their land and they have every right to fight for it. They are resorting to terrorism (note I dont condone this) due to the fact they are militarilly superior than the IDF and attacking civilians seems to produce a better effect.</p>

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But once again, don't try to paint me as the marauding anti-Muslim. I'm half Muslim, you dolt.

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<p>So you're a Jew, Buddhist, Atheist, and a Muslim as well? Did you miss Shintoism?</p>

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Do you think the Palestinians care at this point what the International community thinks? The US never helped them, so why should they care if the US resent their actions? They their land taken away, and they have no choice but to get it back. The tiny Gaza strip wont cut it, which is seen through the population density.

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<p>Why should they care? Because ultimately, it's the international community that defines borders and what consitutes a state. Fair? Probably not. Reality? Definitely.</p>

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By supporting the US, Pakistan does look "good" in the eyes of the international community. But its a bad idea on a domestic scale since the majority of Pakistanis hate the USA. Do you really think Musharaf is respected in the eyes of the majority of Americans?

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<p>I don't think most Americans care about Musharaf. That's the problem with being on top, unfortunately. No, don't go off on how I'm defending it, I'm not.</p>

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Its their land and they have every right to fight for it. They are resorting to terrorism (note I dont condone this) due to the fact they are militarilly superior than the IDF and attacking civilians seems to produce a better effect.

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<p>Unfortunately, however, Israel exists and is unlikely to give up its claim to the land. Just like England exists and is unlikely to give the land back to the Celts. From the POV of the Palestinians, a two-state solution works best for a number of reasons:</p>

<p>It ends the violence (the propogation of violence has hurt the Palestinians far more than the Israelis)
It gets them back on track economically
It gets them legitimacy internationally and may help them with future claims
It means peace</p>

<p>I know, silly reasons for many, but would work for me. </p>

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So you're a Jew, Buddhist, Atheist, and a Muslim as well? Did you miss Shintoism?

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<p>When did I ever say I was a Buddhist? Point that out please.</p>

<p>My mom is Jewish, my dad is a Muslim Iranian.</p>