I went inside from the patio to talk so didn’t see exactly about the setup but the assistant type manager said people paid to pick songs. I told him I didn’t get why these songs were even available when children were present but he was not the owner so he was not able to answer that question.
OK, I missed the joke, but why is it so offensive to be compared to Tipper Gore?
I hope we an move on from that but the issue for me was that the first post in response to my concerns was someone saying to the effect that- I guess now we have Tipper Gore on CC. It seemed dismissive and nasty, although apparently was not meant to be.
Tipper has done some very nice things, including tackling some issues regarding explicit lyrics.
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I had the opposite experience. I had to spend way too much time getting a root canal a few months ago. Two or three days of work. The office had Christian music playing and the endodontist and his assistant sang and hummed along the whole time! And the doc also talked to himself…”uh, I think I’ll try this…oh, maybe not, I’ll just continue with ….” I’m an agnostic and wouldn’t have minded the music for one short appt, but over three days with everyone humming and singing along was too much! Plus I ended up having to get the tooth extracted a couple months later!
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I went to an Einstein Bagels one day to get a special, 13 bagels for $7. The kid handed me a box that was pre-filled and may have been sitting on the counter since early am (it was 2 pm). First he wanted to charge me $14 and I said no, it was a special on my email. I said the ad didn’t say it was just for a pre-filled box, just for 13 bagels. He then said “Oh F*** do you just want to pick 13 F****** bagels?” Right then a couple with a little kid walked in. The guy kept ranting and mumbling.
So I sent a complaint to the headquarters. A few days later I get an email from the manager apologizing and offering a dozen free bagels. I said no, that wasn’t the aim of my complaint and that wasn’t my normal area of town and wouldn’t be back.
I haven’t been to an Einstein since.
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Oh, I see.
Yes, completely inappropriate lyrics. Good to bring it up with management. So crass for a patron to even play that.
If I’d come across that I’d have mentioned it to whoever was in charge, told them we wouldn’t be back, and left.
We often vote with our $$. I don’t call for boycotts or anything like that, but we definitely spend money, or not, supporting what we like, not what we don’t.
Our local newspaper started paying a really crazy columnist with no credentials and a nasty way of writing recently. Nasty as in extremely poor grammar and calling anyone and anything he didn’t like names. I politely wrote the editor a “this is not for printing” email telling him I liked his newspaper’s coverage of both “sides” of things (anything - politics, local development, whatever), but there’s no way in the world I was going to “help” pay for that sort of nonsense. If it were to continue, my next contact with the paper was going to be asking for a refund. I got an answer back that the columnist was gone. I doubt I was the only one writing about him - some letters were also printed saying the same thing. This newspaper is trying hard to get new customers. I suspect they can’t afford to turn off “old” ones.
Forget kids, my old ears don’t like to hear things like those lyrics. Voting with $$ sometimes works. If not, there are plenty of other places to go instead, letting them be them.
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I’m impressed that you could hear the words well enough to be offended! I often feel like I need close captioning for music.
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Unfortunately, I could hear and understand the lyrics all too well!
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LOL. The reason I know Steel Panther is because my H, who is into metal, took me to see them. I couldn’t believe the lyrics … and I am not easily offended. I asked him how he could have thought I would be okay with that. His response? I don’t have any idea what they are saying, I just like the music.
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I’m not easily offended either but I couldn’t believe what I was hearing in a brewpub in broad daylight with children present.
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WOW. That sure would have stunned me. And I also would have contacted management.
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yikes. looked at the lyrics. explicit for sure.
i’ve heard my kids rap songs over the years, when i get into their cars. I have been floored by those songs as well. I just am not sure what to say.
went to a dance class at the Y recently -It was set to rap music that was . . . pretty horrible too with lots of words I’ve not allowed in our house. I FEEL SO OLD and just don’t understand it all. Why is it ok for me to exercise and dance to those words/songs; yet I cant and wont say those words?
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Back before I retired from teaching, we had a permissive principal who pretty much approved anything the student council kids asked for. So one year during Spirit Week they were allowed to play music over the PA during passing time between periods. Well, you would guess, they played songs with extremely inappropriate lyrics (including F-bombs). A colleague was soo angered that he went to the Internet and printed the lyrics to one of the songs, marched into her office, and read the lyrics to the principal. Let’s just say there was no more playing of music during passing time!!
“Laws”? No, The First Amendment right to speech/expression has been pretty well exercised and supported in the courts.
You absolutely have the right to express your opinion to the mangement/ownership to have them change their policies. And the right to not do business with them.
But some type of legal action? No.
I certainly have no intention of taking any kind of “legal action” over something like this. I’m glad I said something about it though. Out of curiosity, I looked at our local codes this morning about obscenity codes and was just curious at what point something is considered obscene? This may not be technically “obscene” but it was certainly offensive and had no place in this setting.
I actually like a lot of rap music and don’t even mind an occasional F bomb in a song now and again. But these songs went beyond anything I want to hear again any time soon! Or that I think unsuspecting families should be subjected to.
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I’m curious what “Laws” meant if not in a legal context.
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I think you’re a lawyer? I am not . I don’t want to get into a debate. My main concern was really not legalities , just curious. I just am still stunned that these songs were available to be played . Artists, musicians, authors , directors, etc. can make any kind of material they want. I’m all for that. Do I think there are many people that don’t want to hear some types of material like this if they don’t know it’s coming. Yes . Especially if you’re sitting there with your children!
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Aren’t there common decency laws? Not saying it applies. I think most people under the age of 30 don’t bat an eyelash at what is said or sung in public. I often comment to parents of younger children that I feel bad for them if they don’t want their kids hearing bad words because there is no way to avoid it these days.
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This was a brewery, right? I realize that some breweries serve food and that kids are sometimes present, but the adult orientation of the establishment is pretty clear in the term “brewery.” I wouldn’t expect Chucky-Cheese level music at a brewery. That said, I probably wouldn’t frequent a place that played such horrible music (IMO).
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