<p>So basically 90% of my class got caught in APUSH class plagiarizing homework answers from a teachers edition .pdf file found in the internet now he's giving us all -100% for every assignment which is like 12 assignments. It's basically an F in overall grade. </p>
<p>My question is, is there any chance for me to get into UCR if I retake the class over the summer. But it is a Regular US History not AP. </p>
<p>I'm desperate for answers. I'm freaking out right now.</p>
<p>If your overall GPA is still high enough, it shouldn’t be a problem. </p>
<p>Many people I know got into UCR with Fs or Ds, as long as their overall stats were still OK, and they met the a-g requirements.</p>
<p>Sorry, no answers except don’t cheat. Seriously. And don’t blame it on that everybody else did it. You will have to suffer the consequences. Retaking the class wont help, you need to disclose academic dishonisty on your app. Sorry, no sympathy here, you shouldn’t have done it. It was a HS class for goodness sakes!</p>
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<p>My advice? Get out now. If your school has a policy where you can withdraw from a class without it showing up on your transcript or GPA, or your counselor has already made up his or her mind to help out, then do that. Do NOT, however, say ANYTHING about it being the teacher’s fault or ask the counselor to intervene with your grade. Things get around very quickly along faculty and your class could easily erase all hope of the teacher changing his or her mind on the punishment. Another option is to wait and see if your teacher will address the issue in a few days. Maybe ask about redoing all the assignments for partial credit and still the disciplinary act still on your transcript and conduct record. I also don’t know how advisable this may be (someone else should post their feedback), but it may help to talk to your parents and try to set up a parent-teacher conference to see if you can have something else done. I would say they’d need to present themselves as very firm on the subject, and actually look like they’d give reasonable punishment. This is way too subjective, though, and it’s ultimately your judgment call.</p>
<p>If all else (and I do mean ALL else, since someone is bound to have better suggestions) fails, you’re gonna have to deal with the retake and just explain nicely on the “Additional Information” section of you application what you did, what you took from it (seriously what you took, not just what they’d like to hear), and how you plan to further on it even at the time of the application.</p>
<p>Skeezey is right, but this is in December where the class is almost ending. While it may be too late, teachers can really do whatever they want. </p>
<p>Cheating is reprehensible, but for your own interest, if you can withdraw, of course withdraw. If not, there are other possibilities.</p>
<p>There was a case in my year when a girl who got accepted to UCLA cheated on the final exam and was about to get an F. She brought in her family and extended family, consisting of the owners of many local businesses. The teacher relented. None of us thought it was fair because she cheated all the way through high school, but that’s life.</p>
<p>I’m confused- did YOU plagerize? If not, you shouldn’t suffer for it.</p>
<p>wait, you mean to tell me that cheating has consequences??</p>
<p>@milkyway: OP isn’t saying the F isn’t deserved – he/she is looking for a remedy to still attending UCR.</p>
<p>Do you know how this is being entered on your permanent HS record? The F may be the least of your worries, even if you can somehow withdraw from the class. Plagiarism on that scale if noted on your school report when you apply could be an automatic rejection from many schools. An F can be overcome, a disciplinary action often cannot.</p>
<p>The more I hear about all this high school and college cheating, the more I think they should just stop putting so darn many kids in AP classes and only put in the kids who test into them without strain.</p>
<p>This academic arms race has nobody learning anything of value and all sorts of kids learning all sorts of dishonorable ways to get “credentialed.”</p>
<p>Good luck to you. I really don’t care if this hurts your college chances, right now. Eventually, you will got on to college somewhere. In the meantime, stop following the crowd around doing whatever they do and stop thinking that being a cheater is a reasonable solution to being overwhelmed. For future reference, if you cannot do the work in a class, drop the darn class.</p>
<p>Luckily for the OP, the UCs don’t look at transcript until after acceptance. They will ask for “criminal record and disciplinary actions” however, so as CT mom said, make sure you know how everything is entered for your transcript. Most likely, if you were not suspended, then it’s not going to be on the transcript. </p>
<p>In many ways, AP classes have already been dumbed down to accommodate the needs of the waves of people who enroll. This is reflected by the decreasing number of schools that accept AP exams.</p>
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<p>Did you cheat? (i.e. were you in the 90%?)</p>
<p>In any case, UCs are likely to rescind admission offers if your senior year grades include any worse than C.</p>
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Actually the UC system expects to find out earlier.
The OP ought to contact admissions once the final grade is known and see what can be worked out. And of concern is whether the cheating is noted in any official record sent to UCR; if it is, the OP ought to work with a counselor to find out what may happen and what can be done. </p>
<p>Simply hoping things work out for the best is not a good approach here; there may be a terrible outcome as far as attending UCR is concerned, but its better to know now where there are lots of alternatives and time to plan instead of waiting until August to see what happens. And there’s a chance there is a way to work things out with UCR, but only if you do something now instead of waiting for them to find out this summer.</p>
<p>The OP is a Junior, so he should know before he sends applications how this will show up on his transcript. He must also ask how it will be handled with regard to the school report - that includes things not directly on the transcript. He needs to know about both, so he knows if, when, and how it will be reported. That way he can decide on his list of applications based on that information, and can discuss with admissions personnel if necessary. Some schools may look at any plagiarism as automatic rejection, but others may be willing to work with him, if he can demonstrate what he has learned</p>
<p>OP–</p>
<p>So, in other words, the teacher is giving students a grade of 0 for each assignment that was plagiarized. I’m not sure why you have a problem with this? What other grade should the teacher give? Why should a teacher give any credit for an assignment you did not do?</p>
<p>I am stunned that you do not seem the least bit remorseful…that you are just looking for the easy out from the consequences attached to your trying to take the easy route by cheating instead of doing the assigned work.</p>
<p>Your parents must be so proud of you.</p>
<p>boysx: please re-read the post. No where is the OP denying his/her culpability nor do I read anywhere a complaint about the punishment. It is a call for a remedy; “what do I do now?”; “what’s your advice on my next step w/UCR?”</p>
<p>Do you see something that I didn’t?</p>
<p>T26E4,
To me, it seems as if the student is all bent out of shape about getting an F in the class for the semester for plagiarizing…and how to escape the consequences. Maybe you read the tone of the post differently than I did.</p>
<p>What to do now? At my sons’ high school, the transcript would have shown a WF (withdrew failing). The transcript also would show that the F was due to plagiarism.</p>
<p>It might be better for the OP to stay in the class, actually do the work next semester to earn a decent grade, and actually study for and do well on the AP exam in May—to show that he learned a lesson morally, and to show that he actually learned the subject and didn’t need to cheat.</p>
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Dude. The class plagiarized homework, not an essay or a test.</p>
<p>You really think people don’t google homework questions? It’s the teacher’s fault for giving out homework which could be googled. I would appeal.</p>
<p>Just because it’s homework doesn’t make it insignificant, particularly if it’s graded. If it was practice for one’s own edification-- go for it. Over homework being collected for a grade? Just do the darn assignment yourself.</p>
<p>My biggest problem with the scenario, though it’s frankly only the OP’s business, is that homework can actually bring a grade down to an F. I’d understand disciplinary action. I’d understand a combination of redoing the homework for a measly amount of credit and tons of after-school hours (if the teacher were up for it). I’d even understand flunking a single student for the act. But to fail a whole class for cheating on busywork? I don’t care if it’s immoral in a personal sense; if a class has a general consensus that the work the teacher provides is so irrelevant as to not even attempt it, I think the teacher should step in and reevaluate what’s best for the entire class. I guess the general counterargument would be cheaters don’t care about their grades anyway, so the academic punishment shouldn’t matter, but it’s just hard to see the validity of that with my personal bias towards students always caring about their grades.</p>
<p>Edit: I didn’t see how the conversation turned in the last few posts. The OP specifically said the class is a non-AP (so the title should actually be USH), so there’s no way for him or her to stick it through and prove himself/herself at the end of the year in quite the same way anyone else could. I’d imagine the OP has tried a few things already, though, and I really want to know what happened.</p>