<p>Do not respond to Columbia 2002 -- a troll. Posts designed to steer applicants away from Colulmbia by making Columbia students and alums appear unattractive. Do not bother to reply. Does not represent the truth about Columbia.</p>
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<p>That's precisely ratting her out. Telling the FBI that person X is going to do something suspicious at place Y at time Z is as good as telling someone that person X is going to blow up the place.</p>
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<p>Are you questioning that I'm a Columbia alum? If so, you won't get very far.</p>
<p>Are you asserting that my posts contain untruths? As to my posts on this thread, you're getting one person's take. As to my posts in general, I'm pretty damn right about most things about Columbia.</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that my purpose of posting here is to "steer applicants away from Columbia"? I'm very positive about Columbia and my experience there. I'll call a spade a spade though.</p>
<p>I could really care less if I'm "ratting" her out. Action needs to be done. I do it. It's done. Call it as you wish...it has no effect on the action.</p>
<p>Oh and please stop wasting your time. Don't you have a job, or something CONSTRUCTIVE to do with your life?
I mean seriously...you go around picking arguments on a college website. If you're really that bored you should apply for a McJob.
(This is the part where you tell us all how AMAZING your life is and how you do have better things to do. But please...spare us.)</p>
<p>peterp-No one likes a rat.
I hope someone rats you out for dishonesty one day.</p>
<p>"How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
-Matthew 7:4-5</p>
<p>pay attention to what you're doing and your application...what others are doing is of no concern to you. </p>
<p>and on a practical note....you should work quickly to drop the holier than thou attitude because it certainly won't make you any friends and you'll find out soon enough that life is as much about who you know as it is about what you know.....and not many people will want to know you if this is how you carry yourself.</p>
<p>Okay so people tell me "Hey thats unfair! Tell on her! I'm HONEST and she could be taking MY spot". I tell her GC to recheck her app...and now its "you're a rat!"?</p>
<p>You people are really pathetic. If your spot is taken b/c someone cheated on their application are you really going to say "don't be a rat!"?
Highly doubt that.</p>
<p>Nycbull: Did you finish stealing people's essay? Thanks for the info on Barnard. Luckily for you community colleges are coed.</p>
<p>if you think that making up a couple of positions on her app will sway the admissions committee to pick her and reject you then you are a paranoid psycho</p>
<p>unless she is directly harming YOUR application like, for instance, hacking into the school computer system and changing your grades then her application is none of your business because each admissions decision is independent of the other.</p>
<p>Also the point that C02 was making was that these club positions are pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things.... noone was accepted or rejected based on the fact that they were or were not president of some club.</p>
<p>I suggest you go back and read my post carefully and stop being so defensive. Whats done is done but I'm giving you advice that will help you later on in life.</p>
<p>ahhhhhhh the dramas of pre-deadline season. someone should make a tv show out of this stuff :)</p>
<p>True life.
I am a narc</p>
<p>LOL at people "disgusted" at Columbia 2002. Quit pretending like you are some sort of higher being. He is saying it like it is.</p>
<p>im pretty sure they won't find out unless she put some outrageously magnificent leadership roles on there, but you're right, she shouldn't do that, and it'll probably just hurt her in the long run.</p>
<p>'LOL at people "disgusted" at Columbia 2002. Quit pretending like you are some sort of higher being. He is saying it like it is.'</p>
<p>And I'm saying it like it is. You might as well stop somehting that isn't right if you find out about it--the 'everybody does it' is a weak argument.</p>
<p>'And I'm saying it like it is. You might as well stop somehting that isn't right if you find out about it--the 'everybody does it' is a weak argument.'</p>
<p>Reality doesn't always agree with morality.</p>
<p>I'm surprised by how low of standards you all hold yourselves to, and hold people in general to. Seriously, that shouldn't be the attitude of Columbia applicants: "ohh, well, yeah, everyone's kinda cheatin', so may as well, nothing i can do, huhhhhhrrr"</p>
<p>That shouldn't be the attitude of anyone. What a crappy place this world would be if it was. </p>
<p>Stop acquiescing to dishonesty.</p>
<p>"wow beef what a crappy world this would be indeed! the economy might actually not be so crappy if it wasnt for all the corrupt and dishonest politicians who enabled all the cheating and shady iBankers. wait that includes absolutely everyone in town!"</p>
<p>What kind of argument is that? See, based on what you just said, I think we both don't like dishonesty. The only difference is, you're too unmotivated, too cowardly, or maybe just too cool to do anything about it. Nice. </p>
<p>Are you applying to CU? I hope you are. Their admissions office is trying to meet their yearly quota of cynical, dishonest farts and I think you might be able to help.</p>
<p>I think I've proved my point well enough without resorting to more colorful language, so I'll stop there. Looks like you've got nothing else to say in return, anyway. Best of luck throughout your college application process.</p>
<p>"wow beef what a crappy world this would be indeed! the economy might actually not be so crappy if it wasnt for all the corrupt and dishonest politicians who enabled all the cheating and shady iBankers. wait that includes absolutely everyone in town! and I bet it all stemmed from them lying on their extracurricular activity on their college apps! I bet their underpaid secretaries didnt lie however- but they only finished high school anyway... wake up"</p>
<p>No one's claiming to have any power to change the world: of course there are screwed up people running around doing screwed up things (W included), but that doesn't mean one should just let them pass. </p>
<p>And don't invoke the I-banking argument because it sounds like you know very little about it: and in this case it's a sound bite that merely weakens your position. Just because everyone's prone to dishonesty, whether it's UBS or a college applicant, doesn't make cheating--whether it's selling subprime securities as federal-backed student loans or making up something on an application--ok. </p>
<p>"Reality doesn't always agree with morality"</p>
<p>True. Nobody's perfect. And in this case, since it's such a minor thing, why let it pass?</p>
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LOL at people "disgusted" at Columbia 2002. Quit pretending like you are some sort of higher being. He is saying it like it is.
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I reserve the right to be disgusted at anyone who trashes the good name of my school.</p>
<p>You'll note that he backed off from saying "Most Columbia students have cheated" down to "I know of 2 cases where students cheated and got busted, and an indeterminate number of cases where they got away with it - and yet for some reason told me." I consider that an acceptable truce.</p>
<p>Nycbull: You sure know how to argue! It's amazing and I am utterly convinced. The most convincing points are usually when you advise us to "go watch the southpark cheating episode. that shows it like it truly is" or..."you people need to go see the movie W if you want to see someone who earned his Ivy diploma through means of deception and stop with the trvial " </p>
<p>Of course! Television is the answer to all our problems!</p>
<p>It really shows how intelligent you are! I also like the fact you posted 3 more times telling me to get a life...thanks for giving ME time to reply! It really shows how pathetic you are and how you need to "tell me off" (or at least think you are) 3 times before I even get a chance to reply.</p>
<p>Save yourself the money (you probably don't have much to begin with) and just apply to those community colleges! But seriously a word of advice: 95% of the people in community colleges will be smarter than you. Sorry man.</p>
<p>Not to be offensive Peter, but a lot of people probably find your idealistic attitude rather frustrating. While ideally, there would be no fraudulent embellishment, no cheating on tests, no scammed SAT scores or fake transcripts, things happen. An idealist cannot survive in a pragmatic community.</p>
<p>With that being said, get off your high horse. Nobody likes a snitch. If you're worried about your own application being jeopordized, you're being paranoid; one leadership position in a rather insignificant club is not going to improve your friend's holistic application much at all.</p>
<p>Oh yea, while I'm at it: insulting another person's intelligence and putting them down is not really going to win you any arguments... especially when your insults are completely ungrounded in fact or rationality.</p>
<p>Nothing personal.</p>