<p>Now when I say "lying" I'm not talking about saying you were involved with the school play for 5 hours a week instead of 2. However, when you start padding your application with extra clubs, activities, leadership positions, etc you're starting to tread on some dangerous ground.</p>
<p>I'm sure that this applies to other schools, but I'm posting this in the Dartmouth section because it happened recently to a girl from my school when applying there. After she had applied an admissions officer from Dartmouth called our guidance department to confirm some of the things she had written for her activities as I guess it seemed incongruent with her teacher and guidance recs. When it all came out in the open it turned out that she had lied about being the founder of some club and a couple other leadership positions within the school. Needless to say Dartmouth rejected her on the spot, all the Ivies were notified, and our HS made her withdraw and revise all of her applications.</p>
<p>It might not seem like you'll get caught, but it's not worth the risk because it DOES happen.</p>
<p>People that lie on their application shouldn't even consider being accepted by the college. No institution wants to enroll people that lack self-confidence and integrity to that level. If you're not awesome in your own right, then don't apply to a really awesome college... duh.</p>
<p>even if they do seem internally consistent, they still choose a small batch just to spot check
just to perpetuate the fear
so, yeah, dude. small chance, but if it happens to be you, it sucks.</p>
<p>and as for internationals--admissions officers already know, dude. no need to be bitter. they really don't pay attention to internationals' ECs unless it's something too significant to lie about.</p>
<p>i just learned about this recently. my international friend told me it's not uncommon. he knows friends who has paid people like doctors and scientists regarding research to write letters of recommendations and even politicians. i just realized.... is it possible that this actually happens a lot here too?</p>
<p>oh what's also fun is
if you lie on your college app
and they catch you like, after graduating
they can revoke your degree
that's kinda cool, i thought.</p>
<p>Those who lie in order to get into college probably won't do as well once they get there, anyway.
Even thinking about this topic ****es me off because they make the pool more competitive than it has to be. Let's say that someone completely lied on their app. The truth is uncovered the day before commencement. Okay, that guy's four years are wasted... but think about the person who could have had his spot and didn't get in because he or she chose to be honest.</p>
<p>I hope that everyone on here will apply to schools based on their own merit. I also hope that you all get into a school that you will be happy attending. Whether that's an Ivy League, an LAC, a state school, a technical school.. whatever. Make something of yourself.</p>
<p>Yeah i have a friend who's getting a senator to write him a letter of recommendation. It's legit because he actually does know him, but then he offered to get one written for me too, which would obviously be fake because we've only met once. So I don't know how seriously colleges take those...</p>
<p>Well, even when it does come to lying about hrs/week and weeks/year, it really annoys me. I know so many people at my school claiming that they are extremely involved in community service by saying (for instance) 3hrs/week, 35 weeks/year, when they've only showed up about 3 times the entire year. And when it comes to lying completely, I feel absolutely no sympathy toward these people (which says a lot for someone (who's also not Republican) that feels bad for George Bush b/c of all the crap he gets constantly)</p>
<p>I suppose that is the one thing about standardized testing-probably don't lie; even essays can be purchased. Sad world that people must lie and cheat</p>
<p>In response to the thread Do colleges REALLY check everything in your app? Dean J, a college rep at UVA and a frequent CC poster, sums it up this way:</p>
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If we don't check, then the number probably doesn't matter as much as you think it does and there's no point in lying.</p>
<p>If we do check and you lie, you're sunk.</p>
<p>You would be hard pressed to find an admission officer who would let the number of hours of community service dramatically change their admission decision. There is no reason to lie.</p>
<p>In short, most of the things that students choose to lie about are not the things athat are going to get you in. The real important things can easily be checked and will most likely be confirmed by another source. Keep in mind that Dartmouth takes its honor code very seriously and will not hesitate to parkhurst you for an infraction of their honor code.</p>
<p>Parkhurst is the location of the Office of Undergraduate Judicial Affairs (UJAO) oversees the College's disciplinary systems for individual undergraduate students and undergraduate student organizations. The office also promotes the broad integration and understanding of the College's Standards of Conduct, Dartmouth's Principles of Community and the Academic Honor Principle into the everyday life of the community.</p>
<p>From the Dartmouth glossary</p>
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Parkhursted (verb) / Parkhurst Sabbatical (noun): An interesting leave term option available at Dartmouth named for Parkhurst Hall, the building which houses dozens of domineering Dartmouth deans. To have the administration tell — not ask — you to take a bit of a vacation. Not advised.
<p>Sure. You can lie about whatever you want to lie about on your resume. You can claim to be a retired astronaut, you can claim you were formerly mayor of several states, you can even claim you have ethics if you want to. </p>
<p>At the end of the day, you’ll be found out, you’ll be rejected, and you’ll just be in A LOT of trouble.</p>
<p>Colleges call college and guidance counselors. They find EVERYTHING out, and if you are caught your name could get blackmailed from all colleges.</p>