<p>Ortemis, it’s absolutely right and more prospective transfers should be reviewing this link more than they do. For me, It’s the first step every student should take, reviewing these majors and choosing one that will get them into UCLA. Unfortunately, most look at this link last, after they’ve already begun their major prereqs and are stunned to find out the acceptance rate is low at best for many majors. The good news is, there’s usually a close alternative major you can still enjoy that has a higher acceptance rate. I for one jumped from an English major, to an American Lit. major due to researching this link first.</p>
<p>@fullload you sound pretty on top of it here. I agree with Cayton re: missing major requirements at your CC. My daughter was missing one and she had a back and forth with someone at UC Davis, who not only said she didn’t need it if her CC didn’t offer it, but she didn’t even have to travel into SF to take it at the only CC around that had it. They also weren’t offered at the two other CCs in her district. However, I suggest you email a UC advisor at every UC you are applying to that requires it, and have them email you back that you don’t need it. Then it’s in writing, and you’re doubly safe.</p>
<p>I have heard it is best (if possible) to finish major req by the fall prior, to be on the safe side and only stick with IGETC stuff last semester, especially for impacted majors. </p>
<p>Def finish the math requirement by fall or you will be declined at UCSB (unless you have another math with a grade on your transcript). My daughter was specifically told this in an email from UCSB.</p>
<p>In regards to finishing prereqs by Fall, this was one discrepancy I found at “Ms. Sun’s” website. I called two counselors at UCLA, one that deals with all student transfers regardless of major, and one major specific counselor. Both verified that they do not lean toward students who finish by Fall and reiterated that prereqs should be finished by Spring and that finishing them earlier will not make a difference.</p>
<p>However every student should do their own research. When I asked this question to both counselors, I did so with the premise that I’m an Am. Lit. major. Who knows what they would have said if I were say an Econ major. The answer may have been different (but I doubt it). BTW, one of them was clearly agitated when I told her about “Ms. Sun”. This is not the first time they have had to deal with her misleading information.</p>
<p>Be careful and do your own research. Verify everything. Measure twice, cut once. ;)</p>
<p>@fullload, I can only speak for my daughter’s CC, but no class was labeled honors. After the class starts, you go in to the counselor and request it be honors and then there is some form the teacher fills out. In my daughter’s case, it simply meant writing an extra super short essay. They recently changed the program at her CC, as they are in TAP accreditation, which makes it more involved, as there is also an honors seminar. It doesn’t sound like your campus is on the TAP track, so I assume it’s just requesting honors and doing something extra. I do know not all courses are available for honors. Just the main types, sociology 100, psych 100, english, etc.</p>
<p>Anyhow, the transcript then has some sort of noation (an H) in there somewhere.</p>
<p>Truth be told, I’m not sure it had any affect in her acceptance at all. But being as, in her case, it was so easy, why not? I might even suggest if the requirements were harder at your CC to forego honors and focus on a strong GPA. I think the UCs know a lot of these honors (that are not TAP) are a bit bogus. My instinct was no one cared about her honor classes.</p>
<p>Even TAP is not necessary if you have a strong GPA. Tons of ppl get admitted to UCB and UCLA without it. And TAP requirements may lower the GPA. So it’s a toss-up.</p>
<p>Maybe others have a different view and can correct me if I’m wrong here.</p>
<p>@fullload glad to heart that re: maj req by fall not necessary! Also read it over at ms sun’s. That is not the first discrepancy from her. She was the one who was insistent my daughter had to drive to the ends of the earth to take a class missing at her CC. That was what prompted my daughter to contact UC Davis, who said she didn’t have to. </p>
<p>Lindy, that was excellent advice! I’ve been trying to get clarification on that for a while, so thanks. My CC is on TAP, but the TAP counselor has been MIA for the last 8 weeks. She’s not back for another 3 weeks. At that time I’ll be meeting with her to figure it all out. Hopefully she’ll allow me to add this honors tag to some of my upcoming courses through the steps you mentioned.</p>
<p>If everything continues the way it has, I’ll come in with a 3.9 so I’m not really worried either way.</p>
<p>@fullload TAP kind of seems like a headache, truth be told. If you have a strong GPA and you do, you probably don’t need it. But your counselor will know best. So either way, you’re probably fine.</p>
<p>Yeah, that’s my biggest hang up, just not sure my CC will be cool about turning some of my courses into honors classes. That will probably be the deal breaker. No to mention I’m at 4 different CC’s this coming Fall (I know, crazy).</p>
<p>Hey guys, how much significance does being a URM have in UCLA’s decision making? Just curious if it’s even a factor these days. Are there any links out there with % of URM’s admitted?</p>
<p>I was in my CC’s TAP program but I didn’t bother finishing the requirements because the honor classes weren’t offered as much and most of them had awful professors teaching them. </p>
<p>I would only recommend you do TAP if you are applying to Biz Econ or any ridiculously impacted major. </p>
<p>I remember when my daughter started the process a couple years back, me (as the OCD individual) was all obsessive about her CC not having TAP. I asked a counselor from a further away school that did have TAP what my daughter’s chances were without it, and she said basically nil. So there it was, I figured well UCLA is out. Anyhow, about a year later we’re talking to another counselor from another TAP school and she tells my daughter, students are still competitive if they have a strong GPA etc, and not to sweat it. Again, the takeaway: not all counselors are created equal.</p>
<p>@fullload, ha, I am OCD in the extreme. My daughter is a 180 opposite, annoyingly chill. And I say annoyingly with love.:x :x :x</p>
<p>Lindy, I admire your OCD and sympathize. I have a kid entering the 9th grade this Fall and I’ve already become a little irritating with my advice in preparing him for college. He’s already rolling his eyes when I bring up looking at schools. I promised him I’ll back off until next year, but then watch out, I’m going to be all over him!</p>
<p>As a TAP student, I recommend doing it if you can and if it’s convenient for you. It’s certainly not necessary for admission to UCLA. It’s more of an insurance plan if your GPA isn’t as high as you’d like it to be to get in at your major.</p>
<p>TAP seriously works wonders…more than 70-80% of TAP applicants get accepted. Frankly, I think the program is too good at what it does, considering that the TAP classes at my school weren’t much harder than my other classes. This is coming from someone who goes to a community college that’s very prestigious for the number of people it sends to UCLA every year (Santa Monica College if you were wondering). I could only imagine what TAP programs are like at other schools, lol</p>
<p>@fullload </p>
<p>Officially, UCLA doesn’t consider your ethnicity in the transfer admissions process. Unofficially, I don’t really know. They may or may not. :-/ </p>
<p>The 70-80% of applicants getting accepted seems like selection bias to me. The students who are in the honors program who made the effort of getting TAP certified at a CC probably are smarter and more motivated than the average CC student and had high GPAs to begin with. I don’t think getting TAP-certified makes that much of a huge difference that counselors seem to say. </p>
<p>Yeah @cayton, I hear ya on that last one. I am positive they take it under consideration here and there at least subliminally - such as, every single person we’ve admitted into this major is Asian, or everyone we’ve admitted into this major is male, etc. In a way, it’s unavoidable.</p>
<p>You could definitely be right. There’s probably some selection bias going on.</p>
<p>However, I think it’s worth noting that in previous years’ UCLA transfer threads, people with noticeably lower GPAs were getting accepted with TAP into high-demand majors, such a business economics and biology. UCLA itself even states that TAP increases your chances of getting admitted. By exactly how much(If we’re ignoring selection bias), we’ll never know.</p>
<p>I have to agree with k4201505 with it being selection bias. I think at my school, there are some requirements for entering TAP or the Honor’s Program which actually looks back into your H.S. GPA. Those students were already academically well-off from H.S., so their statistics for succeeding in community college are already of high probability to being with. </p>
<p>In my opinion, TAP would probably equate to a few excellent E.C’s on an application.</p>