<p>Does anyone else feel really insecure about a a possible acceptance due to an "advantage" they may have (being URM, female in SEAS, etc.)? </p>
<p>I honestly feel that if I'm accepted into SEAS, it will be because I'm a multiracial (white and Asian) female with decent stats. It makes me wonder what would happen if I was male, and I feel extremely inadequate and slightly hypocritical because I've complained offline about how an athlete in my school was accepted into Stanford in *October<a href="the%20athlete%20recruitment%20part%20didn't%20bother%20me%20as%20much%20as%20being%20accepted%20%5Bi%5Dreally%5B/i%5D%20early%20just%20because%20she%20was%20a%20superb%20athlete">/i</a>. And it really doesn't help that one of my best friends (Asian female) might get rejected from Columbia College even though we're on the same level.</p>
<p>Anyone know where extremely specific stats for Columbia admissions are? (Specifically: the number of female applicants applied and number that were accepted). I need some serious comforting from cold hard data.</p>
<p>personally being indian male..urm's/affrimative action bug me...i work HELLA hard getting 4.6 gpa, good ECs, sats etc..and i don't get preference over urm with lower stats...it doesn't seem fair but hey..that's life. u shouldn't feel bad. i envy you :)</p>
<p>collegeboy13536: Ah, the other side of the spectrum! That really does suck -- being a minority but not enough of a minority to qualify. I hope you get in, though.</p>
<p>I know it's just life, and despite complaining about it, I'll use every advantage. I just wish I could be 100% sure that I was more qualified than everyone rejected.</p>
<p>Skramata: Just to let you know, you are not a minority. You are a female (males are minorities now) and are the top two represented ethnicities</p>
<p>but yeah I know exactly what you are talking about, that is how the UC system worked this year (well more on the thing that under qualified students were getting in because of economic status)</p>
<p>Jocelyne626: As zdub08 said, females in SEAS are still minorities (sorry if I wasn't clear!). </p>
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<p>Oh dear, I bet that caused a hullabaloo. I really don't know what to think about it -- under-qualified students shouldn't get in because they're, well, under-qualified, but at the same time, there's a likely chance that they are like so because of their economic status, and giving them more opportunity will let them fulfill their full potential.</p>
<p>wait so being bi racial is a good thing?? i am half japanese half white and i thought that was like double bad because asian girls and white girls are the least desired lol</p>
<p>I completely understand this. After reading up quite a bit on affirmative action and some of its grosser uses, I decided not to disclose my ethnicity (black, originally from Haiti) in my transfer application to Stanford. I did check it for Columbia though, so I guess its a bit of a personal test for me seeing as I love both schools about equally. If I get into Stanford without this ''added advantage'' I'll feel really good. Though if I don't get in because I didn't check it, I may regret it too. :(</p>
<p>To the OP... (Disclaimer: the subsequent post is not 100% serious)</p>
<p>You are a female white/asian mix? For that I'll forgive you for being an engineer, but only if you promise to give me your phone #! (Because we all know mixes are ******* HOT)</p>
<p>/enddisclaimer.</p>
<p>White/Asian mix won't help you at all. The female part may help a bit but I mean let's face it, are you going to complain?</p>
<p>No. There is no reason to be. URMs who get accepted to Ivy Lesgues are just as smart, if not smater, than the white and Asian kids who are also accepted.</p>
<p>undisclosed: I'd really like to hear how everything works out! Good luck.</p>
<p>truazn8948532: I now realize that multiracial isn't a helpful factor in the process (however, I wonder if being a Pacific Islander rather than an East Asian, which I indicated, have any difference? I'm assuming most Asian applicants are the latter).</p>
<p>If I got into Columbia, of course I wouldn't reject their acceptance, and I'd spend my four years there kicking some major @$$. However, it's just that I don't know how to assuage that feeling of discomfort when I have to face my qualified white male friends who might be rejected. And there's probably always going to be thoughts in other people's heads of "Oh, she only got in because she's a girl." I mean, have you ever seen the MIT forum and blog? People are always complaining about girls having it easier (in the past, anyway), etc.</p>
<p>No offense, but honestly if being a URM did help me...i wouldn't cry myself to sleep. Although affirmative action is not entirely fair, we really should take any LEGAL advantages that are thrown at us. And who cares when people say you only got in because you're a girl/black/handicapped? The best way to prove them wrong is to succeed in college and prove that the university was just able to see your capablilities</p>
<p>" URMs who get accepted to Ivy Lesgues are just as smart, if not smater, than the white and Asian kids who are also accepted."</p>
<p>I don't want to talk about 'smart', that's too subjective, but if you mean equally qualified, and your belief was indeed the case - we wouldn't need affirmative action would we? what you say is poltically correct, but still counter-intuitive. </p>
<p>"we really should take any LEGAL advantages that are thrown at us."</p>
<p>i would too, and this is why there's no reason to feel bad about it, perhaps fortunate, but not bad.</p>
<p>"The best way to prove them wrong is to succeed in college and prove that the university was just able to see your capablilities"</p>
<p>cant give you any hard evidence you're asking for, but i know more than enough about the situation you're describing. i'm korean and female. from TENNESSEE. admitted to seas. through early decision as well. you want to talk about wondering whether it was my qualifications or simply because im a girl that got me into columbia?? ive wondered since the day my acceptance letter popped up on my screen. but hey, like you said, its not like you'd say no to columbia. and dont worry, just prove yourself over the next four years if you're accepted. i may be that female in engineering, but i'm a bamf as well. you know what i mean? =)</p>
<p>Never feel bad or guilty about whatever factor may have helped you get into a selective school. Remember, always remember, that the biggest, oldest, and most powerful affirmative action program--everywhere-- is for recruited athletes.</p>
<p>"Remember, always remember, that the biggest, oldest, and most powerful affirmative action program--everywhere-- is for recruited athletes."</p>
<p>Do you not understand affirmative action? what you mean is the biggest, most powerful stepping stone / qualification. Recruited athletes have given up a substantial proportion of their high school careers to excelling at a sport, it's nearly the same as someone getting in because they were on their national maths olympiad team, both are connected to hard work and achievement. Affirmative action benefits someone because of what race they were born into.</p>
<p>You are DEFINITELY not the only asian girl applying to SEAS. You are more qualified than the rest of them are. If you didn't apply, they would have given your spot out to someone else. Don't ever think that they feel bad for you and are forced to squeeze you in.</p>