it differentiates me from the crowd 
I kind of feel good now after reading the laundry list of 4.0 rejections…
Good luck choosing your schools 05`s
<p>damn rite tlqk</p>
<p>i practically lost interest in half my subjects in the 11th and 12th grades. didnt study at all.</p>
<p>wrote an essay very enthusiastically listing why i didnt give a c r a p about what i was studying and how my grades dont reflect me.
i got lucky. big time.</p>
<p>hahah yeah I feel the same way. Also C's. Totally justifies the low SAT math scores.</p>
<p>B's and C's do not always exclude you from good places. You just have to be creative and know where to look.</p>
<p>Yeah, right. Low grades are wonderful. The lower the better. They show the adcoms that you are an individualist and refuse to follow along with those lemmings in the high achievement crowd.</p>
<p>I think it is important to note that B's do not exclude you from very selective schools. DD, except for all A's frosh year, has had 2 B's every year. She was admitted this year to U Chicago, Brown, Berkeley, UCSD, Wellesley and more.</p>
<p>The GC said it was most important to keep grades above 3.75uw for most selective. That and a good SAT, plus the whole resume is fine even for the most selective schools. Well, if your program is rigorous and you push yourself.</p>
<p>So, as long as you try to aim overall uw gpa at 3.75, and you take a hard program, you do not need to get all A's.</p>
<p>I had a 3.4 UW and am going to McGill...a kid with a 3.4 UW in my grade got into BC. Another with a 3.4 UW got into U Chicago. My cousin got into Cooper Union with a 3.3. So depending on the program you apply for, the rigor of your course load, your ECs, your high achievement in your future major, your SAT grades and the level of competition in your high school, I'd argue that you can go lower than 3.75, though probably not more than 3 or 4 points lower than that.</p>
<p>Coureur--I was kind of being sarcastic. I mean I struggled for those C's, because I have a great deal of difficulty in math and science. I'm not trying to be cool and individualist. If I could get A's in math and science, believe me, I would. You have no idea how discouraging it was to get 68 after 68 on math tests, to get phone calls from teachers saying that I was a potential failure in math. Trying to juggle my complete lack of understanding in math while still maintaining good grades in AP humanities was difficult for me. Finally, it was getting to be ridiculous, so senior year I signed up for math course that was below "regular" math and is basically designed for future liberal arts majors. Now I'm getting A's, and my GPA went from a 3.4 to a 3.7 from junior to senior year, though it's back down to a 3.4 now due to being a second semester senior.
As for science, I struggled in chemistry to maintain an 85 average so that I could be placed in AP Environmental my senior year. And in AP Environmental I don't get A's. But in science I decided to challenge myself because my grades met the criteria and I wanted colleges to see that I was making an effort in science.
So what about my agreement with the author of this post who said that not having a 4.0 differentiates you from the crowd? Well, why not agree with that? And why not have a sense of humor about it after four years. I'm tired of beating myself up because I excell in some areas and am only "average" in others...it's about time I recognize that I'm not a crappy student just because I suck at math.</p>
<p>my C's and B's in english during fresh and first term of soph mite work as an advantage if I fluke out in the verbal section. and I thought I sounded rather rude after re-reading my post. 4.0 non-acceptees you guys are still tremendous individuals.</p>
<p>geeeez colleges shouldnt look at a 4.0 and think this person is no GOOD!!!! i cant believe they would do that, after all my hard work striving for a 4.0, ending up with a 3.98uw. i cried for 3 hours for my B</p>
<p>nonconformity:
your cousin that got into cooper union with a 3.3, was his/her major art? because that would make sense, but if it was engineering, then that is just awesome :)</p>
<p>Her (the fact that she's a girl may have helped) major was engineering. Smart girl, AP Physics, competitive high school, and good ECs.</p>