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<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/education/09subject-t.html?ref=edlife[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/education/09subject-t.html?ref=edlife&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>According to their website, the Integrated Science Program at Northwestern still requires 3 subject tests: Math II, Chem and Physics-- or the corresponding AP test.<a href=“http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/admissions/qualifications.html[/url]”>http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/admissions/qualifications.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>A poster asked about why Denison on same list as…? I know why! (their $35,000 year Paschal Carter scholarship!). This is a good list --you’ve added in some schools that give huge merit aid to National Merit Finalists and with a 228 he will definitely make semifinalist and most likely advance to Finalist standing (90% do and my S just did, also with a 228 in VA). My S also applied to Denison (waiting for acceptance…) and was considering some of the other schools on your list. </p>

<p>I would add U. of Southern CA. 1/2 tuition for NMF (must apply for that so not guaranteed, but good shot with these stats). Not sure if this is further than he’d want to go to school, but it’s a high caliber school and the 1/2 tuition for NMF is reason enough to maybe be that far for 4 years (?). </p>

<p>Tulane & Northeastern, also good to add for NMF.</p>

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<p>“U. of Southern CA. 1/2 tuition for NMF (must apply for that so not guaranteed, but good shot with these stats).”
Not correct. NM 1/2 tuition award is automatic if student designates USC as their first choice by the NM May deadline.
To be considered for the full tuition scholarship, or if a students is not a NMF but has top grades/ stats/ etc, and wishes to be considered for other scholarships, the application must be submitted by Dec 1.</p>

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<p>Re: “If an academic All American, should qualify to swim at many D3 schools”</p>

<p>Academic All-American for swimming is awarded to varsity swimmers who have stellar academic stats. Their swimming skills are not taken into account at all when these awards are made.</p>

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<p>I’ll second Mmom’s recommendation of Grinnell. Great school, great merit aid. Their new swimming facility is out of this world: indoor fifty meter by twenty-yards. [Natatorium</a> - Athletic Facilities | Grinnell College](<a href=“http://www.grinnell.edu/athletics/facilities/bearcenterpool]Natatorium”>http://www.grinnell.edu/athletics/facilities/bearcenterpool) To my knowlege, only Kenyon, among LACs, has a comparable facility. Grinnell has a good swim team, though I don’t think they’re “top ranked” as Mmom said (that would be Kenyon)- last time I checked, Grinnell wasn’t one of the top 25 DIII swimming teams nationally, though that might change since the new facility is bound to attract more swimming talent. <a href=“http://www.collegeswimming.com/poll3/[/url]”>http://www.collegeswimming.com/poll3/&lt;/a&gt; The team is probably tops in its conference, though. Grinnell recently got beat by Connecticut College (also unranked). (Yeah, I’m a swim fan…)</p>

<p>Someone also suggested Carleton. Another fantastic LAC, but it doesn’t give merit aid except for two grand per year for being a national merit finalist.</p>

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<p>I think taking 4 SAT IIs is a good idea, if a kid is up to the task and could do very well. My daughter had met all the qualifications to try for an outside scholarship related to H’s company, except that they required 3 SAT IIs, each in a specific subject area (I think it was English, math and history). She had taken a science subject test rather than math, and that disqualified her from applying for the scholarship. It wasn’t worth doing at that point, but others may find that taking 4 tests qualifies them for more scholarships.</p>

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<p>I saw this on MSN and thought you might find it of interest if you are considering Grinnell:</p>

<p>[Inside</a> the college admissions process - Parenting - TODAYshow.com](<a href=“http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41622747/ns/today-parenting?gt1=43001]Inside”>http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41622747/ns/today-parenting?gt1=43001)</p>

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<p>I’ll second sunmachine’s recommendation of Kenyon. Their swim team is amazing. They’ve won the past 31 consecutive Division III national championships. Kenyon is still in the boondocks, but no more so than Denison. Both Kenyon and Grinnell offered my D, who had similar stats to your S, very generous financial packages (merit based). Kenyon’s offer was actually better, but she chose Grinnell. She’s not a swimmer.</p>

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<p>Some of the Ivys and similar prestige schools are very generous with need-based financial aid.</p>

<p>For example, [Harvard[/url</a>] says that it has “no contribution expected for families with incomes of under $60,000. Those parents with annual incomes of between $120,000 and $180,000 are asked to contribute an average ten percent of their income, with a declining percentage — from ten to zero — for parents with annual incomes between $120,000 and $60,000.”</p>

<p>Stanford is also [url=<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/dept/finaid/undergrad/how/parent.html]competing”>http://www.stanford.edu/dept/finaid/undergrad/how/parent.html]competing</a> in this respect](<a href=“http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/index.html]Harvard[/url”>http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/index.html), and has a [financial</a> aid estimator](<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/dept/finaid/undergrad/how/calculator/input.html]financial”>http://www.stanford.edu/dept/finaid/undergrad/how/calculator/input.html) on its web site.</p>