<p>Hi everyone!
I will be applying to college next year and I have a question about the financial pre read.
I have been in touch with some schools and one of them told me to complete the financial aid form just so the admission office could see what was my family's income and assets.
I haven't been accepted to the university yet, so my question is why did they asked me to complete the form?
Thanks everyone in advance.
BTW I am an international student.</p>
<p>If you wanted a pre-read, then how did you expect them to give you one if you aren’t going to provide income/asset info???</p>
<p>I already complete the form with everything.
I just want to know why did they need it. I don’t understand the term pre-read.</p>
<p>They would use the information to give you an idea of what kind of financial aid you could expect if you applied and were accepted to the school. This can be especially useful for international students because their aid can be much harder to predict from information available online than a U.S. student’s might.</p>
<p>The school is basically saying, if you’d like to know what sort of aid you’d get based on your family’s financial situation, then tell us a little bit about it and we’ll give you an estimate.</p>
<p>There’s nothing more than that in it. Some colleges will do pre-reads for students, many won’t and just they’ll just say you have to apply to find out. Sounds like you’re dealing with a very helpful financial aid office at that school.</p>
<p>If the aid would be so limited that you’d never be able to afford the school, then knowing that early would mean you wouldn’t waste time, effort or money applying there. If the aid would be good enough to make it possible… well, that doesn’t mean you’d be accepted, but it would relieve you of some uncertainty about whether applying even makes sense from a financial perspective.</p>
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<p>It also sounds like THIS school is not need blind for admissions…meaning they will take your financial situation into consideration when the are considering your application for admissions. Many schools do this…they are NOT need blind for admissions for international students.</p>
<p>Maybe I’m misunderstanding…</p>
<p>I thought the student wanted to get an idea of what kind of “family contribution” his family could expect IF he were accepted to this school (whether it’s need-blind or need-aware). </p>
<p>If so, then the school would need your financial info to give you a “pre-read” - which is an estimate of what your family could be expected to contribute IF you were accepted to this school. If the school doesn’t have your financial info to look at, then how could they estimate a family contribution? </p>
<p>Student…what did YOU think a pre-read was?</p>
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<p>I don’t think this sounds like a pre-read situation at all! This sounds like a school that is not need blind for internationals (or perhaps for anyone) requesting financial data in order to make an admission decision.</p>
<p>thanks for the reply!
The university told me I had to improve my grades. So that is why I am confused!
why would they ask me for this if I don’t have what they want?</p>
<p>What was your question to them regarding financial aid? Did you ask them what kind of aid you might expect if you were accepted? Anyway, I’m not sure what has you concerned. Are you uncomfortable with having provided financial information to them? Are you hoping it means they might be interested in admitting you? Are you just curious why they requested the information? Maybe the easiest thing would be just to call them and ask. Then you’d know. No one here can tell you.</p>
<p>Well…if the school considers financial need when considering admissions…and they told you your grades weren’t high enough…MAYBE they want to see if you have the ability to fully pay the cost of attendance. Schools that are NOT need blind do consider ability to pay when deciding admissions. If you are able to pay the FULL cost of attendance, you might…MIGHT have an admissions boost. Simply put, the college won’t have to give you any money to attend and they might be willing to take the risk despite your grades IF you can pay the full ride.</p>
<p>This is totally in conflict with what you just wrote a couple of days ago:</p>
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<p>How can you really expect help with your situation if you are telling two different stories. It fails on face and does not ring true because if you were a recruited athlete, a school would want to to commit and and apply ED to commit your spot on the team. </p>
<p>You would have received a likely letter/letter or intent.</p>
<p>Of the 3 schools you mentioned, none of them are need blind for international students, so your ability to pay will be a factor in admissions (especially if you not being recruited for a big revenue sport like basketball/football) Are you trying to get recruited for next year?</p>
<p>Spring of junior year is an active time for recruiting, so this timeline does help make your first post in this thread make more sense. Have you posted on the Athletic Recruiting board here on CC? You may get more information there.</p>
<p>Hey Sybbie79, in the last couple of weeks I have been talking to ivies that is why I posted here. I wanted to know what level of interest does a pre read meant.</p>
<p>If they want your financial information and your grades are on the lower side, it’s to see if you can pay the full price. AsI said earlier, they MIGHT be willing to take a risk on you if you can pay the full cost of attendance.</p>
<p>If this poster is a junior, he could not possibly have been accepted already at Duke, UNC or Berkeley.</p>
<p>If he is a senior, he wouldn’t have heard from all of these schools yet. According to their websites…</p>
<p>Berkeley no longer has ED or EA. Their application deadline has passed and they will notify students at the end of March.</p>
<p>UNC Chapel Hill has EA and will notify folks in late January.</p>
<p>Duke has ED and notifications are sent mid December.</p>
<p>So…how could this poster have been “accepted at all three”? Please clarify.</p>
<p>Since many colleges (including Ivies) prefer to see recruited athletes apply ED (although not all Ivies have ED, some will do likely letters fairly early) the college is probably just trying to give you a sense of what your financial aid is likely to be. That’s very important to know in advance of an ED application.</p>
<p>At the Ivies there are no athletic scholarships, as they provide need-based aid only, so athletes need to know what they can expect in need-based aid if they are not able to pay full cost.</p>
<p>It doesn’t necessarily mean anything with regard to their interest level. It is a courtesy extended to athletes with financial need who are considering submitting early applications.</p>
<p>(We could have gotten to the gist of your question much more efficiently if you’d posted the relevant details to begin with!)</p>
<p>OP…are you a junior or a senior?</p>
<p>Rent, it’s too late for this student to apply early to ANY of the Ivies for the next school year. And as you noted…they do not give any athletic scholarships. They may WANT this student as an athlete, but may decide to offer admission to another well qualified athlete who can pay to go there.</p>
<p>Another thought…if the Ivy type schools really ARE giving this kiddo an early read for financial aid…it is likely so that the KID’s family can decide if they can even afford to have him go there. If the costs are too high, the family might have him pursue any athletic recruitment at other schools where cost won’t be as large a factor for them.</p>
<p>OP…questions…</p>
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<li>Are you a junior or senior?</li>
<li>Have you really been accepted to Duke, UNC and Berkeley and if so…how did that happen?</li>
<li>What information do you really need from us? Folks here are very forthcoming with help and information from their points of view…but you need to be consistent with your story.
4.Are you are recruited athlete?</li>
<li>What CAN your parents pay for your college education annually (in U.S. dollars)?</li>
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<p>This is in your original post on THIS thread which implies you are a junior. Are you a junior or a senior.</p>
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<p>This was posted by the OP on December 4…the third school is Northwestern. It doesn’t sound like you “will be applying”…this makes it sound like you have already done so. Regardless…at that time, no decisions had been sent out by NU or any of the listed schools. I don’t know about athletic recruitment but I believe the only thing this student would have received by this time is a “likely letter” from these schools.</p>
<p>I think the OP needs to clarify some things since some of his posts on other threads have contradicted what he’s posted here.</p>
<p>1) What year are you in school…junior…senior?</p>
<p>2) Have you already been accepted to some schools as a recruited athlete?</p>
<p>3) If so, since ivies don’t give athletic scholarships, are the pre-reads to determine what kind of aid you would qualify for?</p>
<p>4) For schools like Berkeley, is your sport a “full head” athletic scholarship or partial? If partial, then your family would have to pay the rest.</p>
<p>I am an international student who got accepted in Cornell under the ED program… but unlucklily i was not provided any aid … just stressed out and need some suggestionssss…Please help!!!</p>