<p>I have a whole list of schools I want to apply to but they are all hard to get into (i think). The reason they are all high matches and reaches is that I am an international and many "lower" schools do not give aid. I also live in the US.</p>
<p>These are the schools: bates,colgate,hamilton,lehigh,bard,vassar,amherst,brown,cornell,middlebury,wesleyan</p>
<p>As you can see, i need safties, financial safeties. Can some help me out? the schools need to be in the NE</p>
<p>GPA: 4.1/4
Top 10%
2150 Composite
700 and 740 on SAT 2s
Not a list of ECs but few that are very time consuming (few leaderships)
Good Essays
One really godo rec but from sophomore/fresmen teacher and idk about the other ones
two pretty good awards
i guess its an ok to pretty good rigor of courses</p>
<p>please help..</p>
<p>im afraid of all rejections or acceptances with no aid. =/</p>
<p>Can your family contribute anything towards your costs?</p>
<p>What is the breakdown of your SAT? There may be some schools that will give you merit for your stats.</p>
<p>I don’t think Berea is a financial safety because there’s no assurance for acceptance and maybe (not sure), you still have to pay for room and board.</p>
<p>Many LACs do give good aid to internationals, but as you realize, these often are among the most selective schools. If schools like Bates and Vassar are long shots for you, then to find a true financial and admissions safety you may need to consider schools that your family can afford without significant aid. State flagships, even for out of state students, usually are cheaper than private schools at full sticker price; “directional” state universities usually are cheaper than the flagships; community colleges are cheaper still.</p>
<p>Among selective private LACs, you may have better luck with Midwestern and Western schools than with the Northeastern schools on your list. Examples of possible match/target schools (more to less selective): Grinnell and Oberlin (comparable to Colgate or Wesleyan in selectivity); Macalester, Whitman, Colorado College, and Kenyon (comparable to Bates); Beloit, Kalamazoo, Centre College, and Lawrence University (less selective than the others). </p>
<p>The most selective Northeastern schools may be more generous with need-based aid. The Midwestern/Western schools I listed will be much more likely to offer merit scholarships (regardless of financial need), and may be even more eager to encourage an international student than your NE LACs.</p>
<p>Would your state of residence consider you an in-state candidate because of the number of years that you have lived there? If so, your home-state institutions probably are your financial safeties. There may be different policies for community colleges and for universities, so do check about this.</p>
<p>I must stay in the NE because I need to stay close to home. Of course, the NE is a large region and wherever I go, Ill be far from home, but closer is better. NE is just a must for me.</p>
<p>I have called the “top” schools and they said I am eligible for need based aid but some are not blind. I think that for these schools, getting in is harder than getting aid since most are generous. Still out of the ten somewhat schools, I have a chance of getting rejected to all.</p>
<p>What is your precise visa status? Can you get local tuition with that status at a community college? If you can live at home, even with out-of-district status, your community college might be affordable for the first two years.</p>
<p>You also need to find out if returning to your home country, or studying in another country (try Canada since you are in the NE, your student visa would allow you to work part-time) would be viable. In many cases, international students find out that their financial safeties are not in the US.</p>
<p>Being “eligible” for financial aid is not the same as getting what you need.</p>
<p>Your parents’ income and assets will still get looked at and the schools may determine that they should pay a lot more than $10k per year. Families don’t decide what they can pay…the schools do.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to compare your total travel cost and time to get to Macalester (in urban St.Paul, MN, a few minutes from an airport) vs. Middlebury (in rural Vermont, and probably requiring at least one connecting flight). Also factor in the difference in tuition costs (usually cheaper in the Midwest).</p>
<p>Your reasoning doesn’t make sense. It would be easier and quicker to get overseas from a college located near a major midwestern city such as Chicago or Minneapolis, than it would be to get overseas from a rural college in the middle of nowhere in New England, that would require considerable time and effort to get to an airport that was big enough to service an overseas flight.</p>
<p>While I understand you want to be near family, there are no real financial safeties for internationals and it would probably be wise to apply to some schools where you would add diversity and have stats at the very top of the pool. Those schools are much more likely to be in the South and MW.</p>
<p>If you’re from Asia or Europe this is especially true. Each of the so called generous schools has limited money for internationals and you will need higher stats and achievements to get some of it than their admit stats suggest.</p>
<p>Rutgers, CUNY, Hunter College, Baruch, StonyBrook on Long Island. SUNY depends on your major. You are looking for financial and academic safeties right?
Whats your area of interest?</p>
<p>Are you saying that Rutgers is a financial safety? As an int’l who lives in the state, will he get instate rates there? If so, can he afford all costs? If not, then it can’t be a safety.</p>
<p>I cannot get aidfrom Rutgers but I did apply and get in…=/</p>
<p>I’ll see how this works out</p>
<p>I applied to UB as a pharm major, so if i get in there ill be able to afford it. i will have a bit of a debt but then if i graduate then i can pay it back…</p>
<p>I appreciate how internationals want to come here and take advantage of the educational system in the US, but by the same time, I find it a little offputting that so many seem to think that they are entitled to places that will a) admit them and b) give them huge amounts of financial aid. There’s an entitlement mentality I just don’t get.</p>
<p>Well Pizzagirl, many internationals come and end up staying and contributing a lot more to the economy than they got in aid. They are often future high income taxpayers, job creators and such. I don’t see the entitlement mentality as much as I see ambition and cleverness in angling to take advantage of the best opportunities, which I hope is still a very American trait.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for the OP, I don’t see any financial safeties. Good luck though.</p>
<p>*many internationals come and end up staying and contributing a lot more to the economy than they got in aid. *</p>
<p>Where are the stats for that? They come on an educational visa. They aren’t allowed to work. For them to gain residential status and work, don’t they have to “get in line”? If so, that would suggest that many of them return to their own countries after graduating.</p>
<p>I’m not talking about the OP here…he’s already in this country.</p>